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:I think you are right that there is something off here. Not that there is anything intrinsically wrong with the image itself, but that it is confusing in this context. It is slightly different versions of the same four symbols in three variants but a reader might not realise that. Your option C has a mix of gender and sexuality symbols and so that would be confusing as well. Option D, pride flags, is not so good as not all genders have pride flags (and we don't want to encourage trolls to add their dimwitted monochrome cis or straight flags). So that leaves A and B. Just removing it would definitely be a valid option but something like B would be better. Even better still, I think we already have the image we need on the ] article which we can reuse. :I think you are right that there is something off here. Not that there is anything intrinsically wrong with the image itself, but that it is confusing in this context. It is slightly different versions of the same four symbols in three variants but a reader might not realise that. Your option C has a mix of gender and sexuality symbols and so that would be confusing as well. Option D, pride flags, is not so good as not all genders have pride flags (and we don't want to encourage trolls to add their dimwitted monochrome cis or straight flags). So that leaves A and B. Just removing it would definitely be a valid option but something like B would be better. Even better still, I think we already have the image we need on the ] article which we can reuse.
:I am going to swap that one in, because I think that is clearly a step in the right direction, but that doesn't have to be the last word on this. If anybody has any further ideas then please say. --] (]) 18:51, 20 January 2024 (UTC) :I am going to swap that one in, because I think that is clearly a step in the right direction, but that doesn't have to be the last word on this. If anybody has any further ideas then please say. --] (]) 18:51, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
::Well, that wasn't as easy as I had hoped. The image wasn't an image at all. It was symbols in an infobox. I have transplanted it as best I can. Maybe it shouldn't be an infobox? If so, does anybody know how to changeit into something more appropriate while keeping the contents as they are? --] (]) 19:19, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

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    Section sizes
    Section size for Gender (34 sections)
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    total
    (Top) 13,414 13,414
    Etymology and usage 27 19,384
    Derivation 2,222 2,222
    History of the concept 8,676 17,135
    As a grammatical category 1,141 1,141
    As distinct from sex 7,318 7,318
    Gender identity and gender roles 7,027 29,622
    Social assignment and gender fluidity 11,166 11,166
    Societal categories 1,617 9,116
    Non-binary and third genders 7,499 7,499
    Measurement of gender identity 2,313 2,313
    Biological factors and views 4,684 10,710
    Non-human animals 6,026 6,026
    Feminist theory and gender studies 11,950 19,149
    Social construction of gender hypotheses 7,199 7,199
    Psychology and sociology 12,035 12,035
    Gender as biopsychosocial 2,850 2,850
    Gender and society 26 40,450
    Languages 7,407 7,407
    Legal status 160 3,705
    Transgender people 496 496
    Intersex people 2,039 2,039
    Non-binary and third genders 1,010 1,010
    Science 2,643 2,643
    Religion 5,695 5,695
    Poverty 4,522 4,522
    General strain theory 2,963 2,963
    Economic development 1,232 1,232
    Climate change 4,912 4,912
    Social media 7,345 7,345
    See also 308 308
    References 30 30
    Bibliography 729 729
    External links 512 512
    Total 149,193 149,193

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    The rise of criticism against the WID approach led to the emergence of a new theory, that of Women and Development (WAD). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhum.group2 (talkcontribs) 17 May 2019 (UTC)

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    1. Muyoyeta, Lucy (2004). Women, Gender and Development (PDF). Zambia: Women for Change. ISBN 095351367X.

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    In contemporary times, most literature and institutions that are concerned with women's role in development incorporate a GAD perspective, with the United Nations taking the lead of mainstreaming the GAD approach through its system and development policies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhum.group2 (talkcontribs) 17 May 2019 (UTC)

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    1. United Nations. Office of the Special Adviser on Gender Issues, & Advancement of Women (2002). Gender Mainstreaming an Overview (PDF). New York: United Nations Publications.

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    Irrelevant image; suggesting deletion or alteration

    File:SF gender symbols.png#globalusage

    This image, used under the Social Categories heading, is irrelevant. The Male / Female / Transgender symbols in the first column are widely used, however the remaining symbols in the second and third column are "Made up symbols for gender / sex in SF articles", in the words of the image's creator.

    These made-up symbols are not adding anything of value to the page, and are only confusing/misleading.

    Proposed solutions:

    a) delete the image entirely

    b) crop the image so only the Male / Female / Transgender symbols are present

    c) replace the image with a different chart (perhaps something like this https://img.freepik.com/free-vector/gender-symbols-set-outline-black-signs-isolated-white-background-simple-illustration_171739-336.jpg?size=626&ext=jpg )

    d) replace the image with a collection of pride flags that represent various genders (i.e. transgender, demiboy, demigirl, non-binary, agender, etc)

    I think (a) or (b) or (d) are most suitable.

    (c) has the issue where gender symbols (in my lived experience as a trans person) do not have common community agreement and are not frequently used.

    (d) is a better solution, since the flags have community support and are well-understood icons.

    (a) is simple and easy solution. Creature-of-cozy (talk) 17:18, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

    I think you are right that there is something off here. Not that there is anything intrinsically wrong with the image itself, but that it is confusing in this context. It is slightly different versions of the same four symbols in three variants but a reader might not realise that. Your option C has a mix of gender and sexuality symbols and so that would be confusing as well. Option D, pride flags, is not so good as not all genders have pride flags (and we don't want to encourage trolls to add their dimwitted monochrome cis or straight flags). So that leaves A and B. Just removing it would definitely be a valid option but something like B would be better. Even better still, I think we already have the image we need on the Gender symbol article which we can reuse.
    I am going to swap that one in, because I think that is clearly a step in the right direction, but that doesn't have to be the last word on this. If anybody has any further ideas then please say. --DanielRigal (talk) 18:51, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
    Well, that wasn't as easy as I had hoped. The image wasn't an image at all. It was symbols in an infobox. I have transplanted it as best I can. Maybe it shouldn't be an infobox? If so, does anybody know how to changeit into something more appropriate while keeping the contents as they are? --DanielRigal (talk) 19:19, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
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