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Thanks!

For fixing Kirill's name on my talk page! And being supportive! And hey - nice bridge ya' got there :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 01:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem. =) I guess it's inevitable that a few people (one?) took it the wrong way and were upset, but the end result will only be improvement. And yeah, I put up the bridge when every other message on my talk page was some permutation of "how dare you...!!" or "why are you attacking...?!" It's supposed to suggest "think twice before flaming" and maybe I'm just nicer these days but it seems to be working. — coelacan — 01:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

For some reason, I've only gotten one attack from my NPP. I have no clue why. I have a feeling that it's because I do a {{welcome5}} before I put the {{uw-vandalism1}} (or whatever). I think they get lost in the welcome and don't make it down to the warning. But I don't know for sure :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 04:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Sigh, welcoming the vandals. Tut tut. I had to point out to an editor the other day that welcoming User:Twatfuck was perhaps not the best approach... WjBscribe 04:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I've found a method that works for me; I go straight from level 1 to level 4 warnings. I'm a patient person, I think, but I've never seen any hint that the middle steps make any difference. If someone's going to keep vandalizing after a level 1 warning, level 2 won't stop them either. Although I have seen level 4, especially {{uw-v4im}}, make them stop quite suddenly. — coelacan — 05:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Mmm

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/WOW Hits is proving a lot more contentious than I expected. Why on earth do people want to keep that rubbish. Its not as if all mention of the songs and artists will go as well. WjBscribe 03:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I've got no idea a few ideas, but I'd rather not voice my suspicions. The indignation over there is palpable. I let this one cool for a while lest I be accused of badgering, which has happened when I reply to multiple people in an AFD. I guess it's time to get back in the ring though. Care to join me? — coelacan — 04:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I've slipped a comment in. Don't want to badger the keep voters though. It seems that some Christian editors find the nomination an affront to them and, rather than actually citing sources for why these compilations are notable prefer just to proclaim outrage and say that they sell well. Concensus-based decision making at its worse. WjBscribe 04:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Even though several people have said it's fine to nominate Now That's What I Call Music! as well. I guess I should have bundled several compilations instead of one Christian series. Too late now. — coelacan — 04:28, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

We live and learn. A lot will depend on which admin closes the discussion. But I suspect the tedium of "no concensus" awaits it... WjBscribe 04:29, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

If I were closing this right now, between only the two choices of "keep all" or "delete all", I would honestly have to close it no consensus. It does seem, though, that if you count the "delete alls" and the "delete somes", there is a consensus to keep the main article and delete or merge the rest. I suppose that's far preferable to keeping all, and I'll make clear (real soon now) that I'm not opposed to this if full deletion is not possible. — coelacan — 04:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

re: edit summary

A little bit from Column A and a little bit from Column B.--E tac 06:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that, it was rather immature of me. I was just a little ticked off as I typed that whole response up a couple of times only to get an edit conflict and have to retype it all over.--E tac 06:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Finally! I have a quote!

I would place a warning per WP:CIV on his page, but he seems to have many friends in decently high places. Should I just write him off as a bully? Should I make an issue of how personally vicious he is? I'm unsure how to proceed. Please advise. Jeffpw 15:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm. I would not want to be in your or KSB's shoes right now. Might I suggest a different tactic? Delete any trace of him from your talk page completely. If he posts there again, just delete it completely, without an edit summary. You'll get your point across and he'll quit. It's still not civil, but it's preferable to the situation y'all have now. And maybe wait a couple of weeks before you flaunt that quote ;-) — coelacan — 18:12, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

for the heads up! I appreciate your comments over there, too; careful and reasoned. scribblingwoman (talk) 05:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

re: newly tagged articles

That's perfectly fine with me. I was concerned about things being bumped off the list too soon, but if this way keeps them on long enough it works for me. Thanks. Koweja 21:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

you are a rat

as above —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.218.207.96 (talk • contribs).

*squeak* — coelacan — 06:00, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rat —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.218.207.96 (talk • contribs).

Do you ever sleep? I've been editing for twenty hours now and you seem to have been online the whole time... Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 06:03, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't get enough, actually. I guess there are breaks in my contributions log somewhere tho... By the way, support my cats? — coelacan — 06:17, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Supported. Good idea, those other two were very clumsy - got a clumsy cat tucked away? ;D Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 06:21, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Sort of. Best I can muster today. Gives me chills to look at, actually. Probably a sweetheart though. — coelacan — 06:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeeeugh. Poor thing needs some fur and fast. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 06:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh sure, just rub it in. Tell the kitty why there's a lifetime of itchy and degrading pet sweaters ahead. — coelacan — 06:46, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Billie Joe

Why? Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 12:49, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Because silly myspacery and inflammatory crap is sure to show up there? I could be wrong, but I'd just like to get the regular editors watching that. — coelacan — 12:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

In an archive? What fangirl is going to be able to find that when the main talkpage is so inviting? But OK. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 12:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Ahh, I clean up archive vandalism from time to time. Most often editors' talk archives. But whatever, hopefully I'm wrong. =) The usual "this can't be truuuue I just feeeeel it" will show up on the main talk page, I'm sure. — coelacan — 12:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: btw

Thanks! I added it when you created it because I have no life lol and refresh my watch list a few times every 10 minutes. Yeah I thought I'd keep them around. I find them amusing. They're like a badge of honour. Thanks for cleaning up!--JUDE 13:11, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem. =) It's one of my pet peeves to come to a talk page and see it full of blather. Take no prisoners there, Jude. Delete them on sight, and without remorse. Teach them about WP:ABF! =P — coelacan — 13:37, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for Thanks!

Hi Coelacan, I love the hydrangeas too and I appreciate your comments, love cats too, cheers HelloMojo 13:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for Clarifying

I appreciate the note, but Jeffpw and I are fine now. No worries!  :) K. Scott Bailey 05:24, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunatel yes, I have had that "pleasure." As for ANI, I've already removed it from my watchlist (as well as all bureaucratic pages, save the occasional RfA) after that little experience. Getting to know Knowpedia was quite an adventure...K. Scott Bailey 05:33, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

re: adoption offer

Hi Coelacan, Yes, I would like to be adopted by you. Where do conversations between adoptor/adoptee usually take place? Let me know and I'll give you a little background on me and my interests questions on WP.--killing sparrows 20:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I created the page as you suggested, I like it when all parts of a dialog are on the same page--killing sparrows 20:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Richard Dawkins in popular culture

An editor has nominated Richard Dawkins in popular culture, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Misplaced Pages is not"). Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Richard Dawkins in popular culture and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. Jayden54Bot 18:10, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Li Hongzhi image

Thanks for the explanation and links. I will check them out just out of curiosity. I have sent clearwisdom another email so I hope they will respond and it will be sorted out.--Asdfg12345 18:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Adoption

OK, I'm happy with that. I have seen you moving through the pages. I had not changed the template, not through ignorance or idleness, but because it has seemed to me that changing to "adoption offered" may discourage other potential adopters, while at the same time giving the potential adoptee, who is by definition a newby, the impression that it is decided over their head. But, as I say, I wil happily change the templates in future if this is thought best.

Thank you for your congratulations.--Anthony.bradbury 21:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Please do not misunderstand me. I am perfectly happy with what you are doing, and had no intention of implying otherwise.--Anthony.bradbury 22:22, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

No, leave it as it is. There really is not all that much room on a template, and I think we have to assume that most editors will figure it out.--Anthony.bradbury 22:40, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Email

Any chance you could specify an email address or email me: Ryanpostlethwaite(at)hotmail.com, would like to talk to you about something. Cheers Ryanpostlethwaite contribs/talk 22:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Emailed :-) Let me know if you get it as I've been having problems recently Ryanpostlethwaite contribs/talk 22:46, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

AfD confusion

Thanks for straightening that out! The (apparently) conflicting pages confused me. Aleta 04:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Confused me too, since I removed it entirely without realizing it had returned already. Deletion sorting pages make it easier but still a pain. — coelacan — 04:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

bad kitty

OK kitties dead. Herostratus 06:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick disposal! Hopefully I'll be able to bring them back soon under a CC-BY-SA. — coelacan — 06:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Li Hongzhi Image

I have no idea about the source and the status of this image either. It's currently filed as "fair use". I think it should be close to the situation of the image on the English version. I'll leave a message on the uploader's talk page and hopefully he/she can clarify on this. I've also submitted it to the copyright violation voting page for deletion, since this is in violation with the current “fair use" standard. --munford 00:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Replied on zh:user talk:Munford. — coelacan — 01:56, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Oops, I didn't notice that I was not signed in when leaving the previous message. Anyway, you figured out that was me. For this matter, I guess we can just let the rules run its course. If there is anything you think I can help on Chinese version in the future, just drop me a line. :) -munford 03:42, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding this

Thank you! I sincerely appreciate the kind remarks coming from a fellow left wing tree hugging scum rat.  ;-) By the way, the photo of the bridge and associated caption on this page are simply fantastic (and the photo of a certain feline effectively tranquilised me). Cheers, -- Black Falcon 06:40, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for your support in my recent successful RfA. In response to your comments therein, I have so far failed either to delete the Main Page or to block Jimbo, so it looks good.--Anthony.bradbury 16:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, it is April Fools' Day. Perhaps you ought to make an exception and put those items on your to-do list. =) — coelacan — 19:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

RfA

I think it's time, and people, please try persuading Coelacan. 151.202.74.135 19:22, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your confidence, New York New York IP. Who are you? =) — coelacan — 19:27, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Someone with a 75% nomination success rate (100% if you ignore the nomination done before I really understood the processes). 151.202.74.135 19:33, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I can co-nominate you, but WILL PEOPLE STOP CALLING ME XINER? Thanks, that feels better. 151.202.74.135 19:40, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I surely did not! I merely mentioned Xiner. You are obviously a completely anonymous IP with no suggestive edit history. None. — coelacan — 19:43, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, and don't you ever forget that. 151.202.74.135 19:51, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh geez :)

I am so embarrassed. Vote corrected, thank you!! - Alison 05:49, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Newsletter?

Dev seems to be busy with RL. I'm posting to a couple people to see if anyone wants to contribute anything to the newsletter, since it should go out. Feel like writing anything? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 06:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

So what do you think? Ready to go out tonight? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 01:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

And by that I mean the newsletter... :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 01:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

LOL... WjBscribe 02:09, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, probably. I'm tempted to hound everyone about the WP:DSSG board again. What do you think? Is it not getting much use because there aren't many articles coming up for deletion, or are we just overlooking them? — coelacan — 02:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

The former, IMO. I watchlisted it and haven't seen a whole lot come through, though I did !vote on one. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 02:20, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I meant are there just not many articles coming up on AFD. Which would surprise me. — coelacan — 02:22, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Judging from articles I've closed recently we are missing some. For example:

• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/GayRomeo
• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Toby Meltzer (2nd nomination)
• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/James Denton (gay activist)

Still we don't want the newsletter just to be a series of comments about things people aren't doing well enough :-). WjBscribe 02:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I couldn't resist; I already added a note (without scolding). I hear you though. Maybe we can come up with one more positive thing to begin the newsletter with, to set the tone? — coelacan — 02:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

How about a kudos to photographer User:DavidShankBone under the members section? ZueJay (talk) 02:35, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good to me, ZueJay. Write it up! ;-) — coelacan — 02:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Woe is me for making a suggestion ;) Gave it a try (oops on the edit sum though). ZueJay (talk) 02:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Were those in our cats? Hmmm... I've just made a change to SatyrBot that may help with that. It should now recognize the AfD tag on any article within our scope and report that on the project cleanup list. I'll check after tonight's run to make sure it works.

As for the newsletter, I'm at a loss as to an upbeat beginning. Maybe move the "Article News" to the first spot? Or ZueJay's idea sounds good.-- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 02:53, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Two of them were tagged, Denton was not. Then again it appears that article was a hoax anyway . Grrr... WjBscribe 02:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Such a lovely sentiment! Anon users make me feel warm inside sometimes :)

If there's nothing else, I'll send out the newsletter in about an hour. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 03:02, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm done! =) Do anything else to it, including reverting me, and send it out when you're happy with it. I feel myself slpping into perfectionist mode, and rather than tweaking endlessly, I think it's better that I just have a beer and go sift through CFD. — coelacan — 03:20, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Grr.. Bots are useless sometimes. It decided to put *two* headings on each user's delivery. <sigh> -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 04:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Ahh, everything else is breaking around here this past week. If anybody complains on your talk page, blame it on Equine Intervention. — coelacan — 05:24, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

LOL!

Ummm.... Why aren't you on the membership list? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 05:39, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Because I'm stubborn. I don't join anything. But if I ever start joining WikiProjects, I'll be sure to join this one. — coelacan — 05:43, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

ROTFL! A person after my own heart!! Fight the system :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 05:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

It also keeps bots from borking my talk page... =P — coelacan — 05:50, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Re edit conflict

Not sure what happened. I've unknowingly done this twice in recent days, and as nothing's changed over here, I assume it to be a glitch on WP's side.Proabivouac 08:09, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Sysop template

Fixed! Thanks for letting me know. I had stolen the template from Illyanep. =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:58, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Admin Template Changes

Sounds good to both changes. I haven't had a chance to use the template much considering the whole my school is eating me with work thing, but I'll get back to it over the summer :) — Ilyanep (Talk) 21:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up

Thanks for the heads up on the CfD. My vote is to change, as per nom. I'll try to contact others who should be interested, too. Edhubbard 19:39, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Took me a minute... you're talking about this, right? — coelacan — 19:42, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that's the one I'm talking about. The page is sort of my main wiki-project (although it still needs work) as it is also my main real-life project... piece by piece it's getting there. Thanks again. Edhubbard 19:48, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

It's a fascinating subject, and most of my knowledge is sadly limited to an hour long TV special on Daniel Tammet and a Time magazine article on non-autistic synesthesia. =( — coelacan — 20:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, Daniel Tammett is an interesting, but not very representative case. Most people who experience synesthesia just have colors for letters and numbers, grapheme-color synesthesia. Daniel's synethesia involves 3-D shapes for numbers, plus his autism, which both seem to be linked to his memory. I got started researching this about seven years ago as part of my PhD work with Vilayanur S. Ramachandran at UCSD. We started with just trying to show that it's real, but have long since moved onto other questions, like what's going on in the brain and explorations of other forms of synesthesia. Have a look at my "real-life" page here http://psy.ucsd.edu/~edhubbard if you're interested. Edhubbard 20:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Bookmarked! I'll pop over there in a little bit and have a read. — coelacan — 20:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Cub category

Thanks for the message, I'll let you know if anything untoward happens. Well done for unmasking that his pet project isn't an official WikiProject. I had a good look and was thinking it didn't look right. Mallanox 00:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Even if User:PatPeter/Wikiproject:Source to Short and User:PatPeter/Wikiproject:Category Cleanup were approved WikiProjects, WikiProjects can't make rules for the rest of the community to follow. They only exist to facilitate coordination among people interested in a certain topic. They aren't policy-generating boards. — coelacan — 00:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I have permission to use these title overrides do I not? Do not touch my subpages again you have no permission, if you had asked without being rude I would tell you but otherwise I will not. -PatPeter 00:58, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Dunno who you are, PatPeter, but may I respectfully remind you of WP:AGF here? Thanks - Alison 01:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

END DISCUSSION

I will continue this discussion Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 April 4#Category:Cub Wikipedians.

-PatPeter 03:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Subpages

Alright the reason I use the title overrides is because once I finish my subpages I wish to nominate them as real WikiProjects. Just like you said people don't have to necessarily abide by WikiProjects, they are just there.

The ultimate goal of both these is to keep categories organized. Have you looked at some user template categories? They are ridiculous with whole userpages in them and subpages strewn about, here look at my work, I have finished sorting Category:Language user templates and Category:User templates I have not checked them in a week or two so there may be a couple lone pages. If you need me to go into more detail tell me.

And damn I walk away from my computer for 30 min and you are ready to delete my pages? You are one rude guy. -PatPeter 03:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

You said right there that you weren't going to answer me, I asked again at 01:01 for some clarification; you started editing again at 02:09 and didn't answer. I figured it was reasonable to believe that you weren't going to answer, since that's what you said. I asked again and just said if there wasn't any answer I wouldn't know any other route except deletion, and I waited further for your response, which you gave now. At no point did I actually nominate them for deletion, but rather I gave you notice of my intention. I don't think this was rude. — coelacan — 03:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

As to the actual matter of the title overrides, you are going around telling people that "per WP:StS" they need to do something, when in fact that redirect goes to your userspace which looks like a Wikiproject. I believe this is extremely misleading, and I believe you need to take down the title overrides so that it is not so misleading, as well as stop telling people to do things per some proposal you have made in your userspace. — coelacan — 03:17, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't aware that he was doing this. Is he using Misplaced Pages shortcuts (WP:xxx) to redirect to his userspace and claim it as policy or something? - Alison 03:29, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Right here is one example. He has made WP:StS, which he was referencing there, and his wording to Mallanox seems to me to say that you need to do this sort of thing per WP:StS. The specific suggestion is not harmful, but I think the execution is bad form. — coelacan — 03:32, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Please don't delete any of my pages or take away any of my nominations, proposals for deletion, etc. It is 10:30 at night here, I have had a 5|-|1+\/ day and I want to go to sleep. -PatPeter 03:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)