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| My name is Patrick Wilson. I am a family man and keen music composer from England. | My name is Patrick Wilson. I am a family man and keen music composer from England. | ||
| My initial motive for editing on Misplaced Pages was to help provide balance within an article on ]. |
My initial motive for editing on Misplaced Pages was to help provide balance within an article on ]. Since age 17 in 1974 I've practiced the meditation I learned from him and continue to do so - but I have grown to disrespect the dishonesty he tolerates around him which was very hard as being a 'premie' demands holding Rawat himself in great respect. | ||
| I have criticisms and unanswered questions. Current followers tend to characterise criticisms as cynical by default- I maintain that mine are sincere and constructive. | |||
| Reading the article I was disturbed to see that critical long-time students were all lumped altogether without fair distinction and dismissed as a "]." I felt this description was misleading and unfair to moderate critics. My initial observation on the article about Prem Rawat was that it was used by over-zealous students ( |
Reading the article I was disturbed to see that critical long-time students were all lumped altogether without fair distinction and dismissed as a "]." I felt this description was misleading and unfair to moderate critics. My initial observation on the article about Prem Rawat was that it was used by over-zealous students (called 'premies') to subtley demonise critics whilst heavily promoting Prem Rawat. I felt enough conscientious objection to this to devote some time to edit the article, to give it a more neutral tone. I felt that as critic who actually embraces some aspects of Rawat's teachings, I would possibly be a different voice amongst editors of more polarised views, who tend to be the ones, in practice, motivated to fight these editorial battles. Also, I aspire to fairness and neutrality and this seems a pretty good place to exercise those virtues. I will probably extend my editing to other articles as and when time permits. | ||
| At this time I want to help convey somewhere here that the former student critics of Rawat are not so much a 'hate group' but more a 'hurt group' (I think this is actually a view shared by quite a few 'moderate' current students of Prem Rawat). I feel that if Prem Rawat were to engage in dialogue with these people, especially those who in some cases dedicated their lives to him and his work, they could could gain closure<ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/Closure_%28psychology%29</ref> and Rawat himself would be showing character. I am aware that there are indeed some people who harbour hatred towards Prem Rawat but my impression is that even they are mostly former 'devotees' of Prem Rawat who felt 'jilted' or disillusioned. Their more extreme anger and frustration may be considerably reduced if they were shown empathy. I have been very inspired by Desmond Tutu's ] and it's healing principle of having a neutral 'area' to communicate where forgiveness can occur. If only more religions and organisations would open themselves to this ideal the world would be a better place. | At this time I want to help convey somewhere here that the former student critics of Rawat are not so much a 'hate group' but more a 'hurt group' (I think this is actually a view shared by quite a few 'moderate' current students of Prem Rawat). I feel that if Prem Rawat were to engage in dialogue with these people, especially those who in some cases dedicated their lives to him and his work, they could could gain closure<ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/Closure_%28psychology%29</ref> and Rawat himself would be showing character. I am aware that there are indeed some people who harbour hatred towards Prem Rawat but my impression is that even they are mostly former 'devotees' of Prem Rawat who felt 'jilted' or disillusioned. Their more extreme anger and frustration may be considerably reduced if they were shown empathy. I have been very inspired by Desmond Tutu's ] and it's healing principle of having a neutral 'area' to communicate where forgiveness can occur. If only more religions and organisations would open themselves to this ideal the world would be a better place. | ||
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| and I confess a disillusionment over the Prem Rawat article. I just wrote some description of my impressions but have been warned by Jossi that my comments will be removed so I've removed them. I regret having to abandon this article with my good faith eroded. I tried but have apparently failed to help in some healing process for both former and current students. | and I confess a disillusionment over the Prem Rawat article. I just wrote some description of my impressions but have been warned by Jossi that my comments will be removed so I've removed them. I regret having to abandon this article with my good faith eroded. I tried but have apparently failed to help in some healing process for both former and current students. | ||
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Patrick Wilson (Feb 2008) | ||
| Even more cynical now about premies honesty over the history of Prem Rawat. Disgusted at their hard-fought ownership of the article and delighted that other impartial people have noticed the degree of obfuscation surrounding Rawat and have raised what only can be described as public-spirited, moral objections to this. I believe generally in the principal that 'one's sins will find you out' and that eventually these organisations (that twist the truth in articles about them) will find that their attempts to whitewash and cover-up will be seen for what they are. | |||
| == References and footnotes == | == References and footnotes == | ||
Revision as of 13:00, 11 February 2008
(Patrick wilson 2005)
My name is Patrick Wilson. I am a family man and keen music composer from England.
My initial motive for editing on Misplaced Pages was to help provide balance within an article on Prem Rawat. Since age 17 in 1974 I've practiced the meditation I learned from him and continue to do so - but I have grown to disrespect the dishonesty he tolerates around him which was very hard as being a 'premie' demands holding Rawat himself in great respect. I have criticisms and unanswered questions. Current followers tend to characterise criticisms as cynical by default- I maintain that mine are sincere and constructive.
Reading the article I was disturbed to see that critical long-time students were all lumped altogether without fair distinction and dismissed as a "hate group." I felt this description was misleading and unfair to moderate critics. My initial observation on the article about Prem Rawat was that it was used by over-zealous students (called 'premies') to subtley demonise critics whilst heavily promoting Prem Rawat. I felt enough conscientious objection to this to devote some time to edit the article, to give it a more neutral tone. I felt that as critic who actually embraces some aspects of Rawat's teachings, I would possibly be a different voice amongst editors of more polarised views, who tend to be the ones, in practice, motivated to fight these editorial battles. Also, I aspire to fairness and neutrality and this seems a pretty good place to exercise those virtues. I will probably extend my editing to other articles as and when time permits.
At this time I want to help convey somewhere here that the former student critics of Rawat are not so much a 'hate group' but more a 'hurt group' (I think this is actually a view shared by quite a few 'moderate' current students of Prem Rawat). I feel that if Prem Rawat were to engage in dialogue with these people, especially those who in some cases dedicated their lives to him and his work, they could could gain closure and Rawat himself would be showing character. I am aware that there are indeed some people who harbour hatred towards Prem Rawat but my impression is that even they are mostly former 'devotees' of Prem Rawat who felt 'jilted' or disillusioned. Their more extreme anger and frustration may be considerably reduced if they were shown empathy. I have been very inspired by Desmond Tutu's Truth and Reconciliation Commission and it's healing principle of having a neutral 'area' to communicate where forgiveness can occur. If only more religions and organisations would open themselves to this ideal the world would be a better place.
Patrick Wilson (April 2006)
Well, it's one year later...
and I confess a disillusionment over the Prem Rawat article. I just wrote some description of my impressions but have been warned by Jossi that my comments will be removed so I've removed them. I regret having to abandon this article with my good faith eroded. I tried but have apparently failed to help in some healing process for both former and current students. Patrick Wilson (Feb 2008) Even more cynical now about premies honesty over the history of Prem Rawat. Disgusted at their hard-fought ownership of the article and delighted that other impartial people have noticed the degree of obfuscation surrounding Rawat and have raised what only can be described as public-spirited, moral objections to this. I believe generally in the principal that 'one's sins will find you out' and that eventually these organisations (that twist the truth in articles about them) will find that their attempts to whitewash and cover-up will be seen for what they are.