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We could just leave characterization of those two people out of it entirely if that's easiest. I agree Musk is not traditionally conservative. Thoughts on that approach? Other ideas for consensus? ] (]) 17:44, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
We could just leave characterization of those two people out of it entirely if that's easiest. I agree Musk is not traditionally conservative. Thoughts on that approach? Other ideas for consensus? ] (]) 17:44, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
:I struck the controversial text as nobody replied. Seems the easiest way to fix this. ] (]) 16:23, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
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Alot of the things under the tab 'Popular Culture' could also be listed under a tab titled 'Controversies' or something along those lines. Technically there was alot of humans who spoke out against a Judge doing what she was. There was also humans in favor of it. Either stance a human has on it is there own, but it's starting to get disgusting the amount of articles on here that give a opinion, then only include one perspective. 2601:45:500:B850:3829:6EC7:3B28:5D4A (talk) 09:02, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Conservative vs Right-wing vs Right of Center to describe Musk and Murdoch
In characterizing the politics of Musk and Murdoch Jessintime changed the text from "conservative" to "right-wing leaning". That description is somewhat loaded and doesn't necessarily apply here. Both people are anti-trump, and Musk is socially liberal. I reviewed online sources and "Right of center" seems fair to me, so I made that edit with rationale in comments. Jessintime reverted the text saying "they're right wing". To avoid churn, I just reverted all edits and am opening this talk page topic.
While I'm liberal and I'd guess at least 90% of wikipedia editors are, we shouldn't be using our opinions to characterize everyone to the right of us as "right-wing". Characterizing people requires thinking in terms of population averages. Now adays right wing is means being a trumpist or in favor of dictators like Putin, which these two are not to my knowledge.
We could just leave characterization of those two people out of it entirely if that's easiest. I agree Musk is not traditionally conservative. Thoughts on that approach? Other ideas for consensus? Efbrazil (talk) 17:44, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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