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:I just want to state for the record that I intend to continue maintenance of Washington articles as well as those I brought up to GA status in other states. I'm going to be contributing to both projects, albeit with less detail for roads articles on here. ''']]''' 04:27, 24 September 2023 (UTC) | :I just want to state for the record that I intend to continue maintenance of Washington articles as well as those I brought up to GA status in other states. I'm going to be contributing to both projects, albeit with less detail for roads articles on here. ''']]''' 04:27, 24 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
:In reality there are two more alternative sites we can choose from - and . The former is a Misplaced Pages-like site that forked all contents from here last year and has lenient notability requirements. ] (]) 13:30, 27 September 2023 (UTC) | :In reality there are two more alternative sites we can choose from - and . The former is a Misplaced Pages-like site that forked all contents from here last year and has lenient notability requirements. ] (]) 13:30, 27 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
== New shields needed == | |||
I'm not sure who makes shield, but we need to make some for future routes that don't have them. They include I-14N (Texas), I-14S (Texas), I-214 (Texas), I-344 (Oklahoma), and I-335 (Oklahoma). The last two are of the up most urgency since the OTA will be adding these shields to the Kilpatrick and Kickapoo Turnpikes within the next two months. ]] 22:06, 10 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
== State highways categories == | == State highways categories == |
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Please join us over at the AARoads Wiki. We look forward to seeing you soon! Imzadi 1979 → 20:27, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
- I sure hope that this project isn't shutting down. It would be unfortunate for us to cave to the opinions of non-content contributors at an RfC who probably don't even know how to read a map. Bneu2013 (talk) 02:16, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- I've marked the page as per this. 20:59, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
- I just want to state for the record that I intend to continue maintenance of Washington articles as well as those I brought up to GA status in other states. I'm going to be contributing to both projects, albeit with less detail for roads articles on here. SounderBruce 04:27, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- In reality there are two more alternative sites we can choose from - Justapedia and Encycla. The former is a Misplaced Pages-like site that forked all contents from here last year and has lenient notability requirements. 5.181.21.208 (talk) 13:30, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
State highways categories
Is it true that categories for "state highways" must include all highways maintained by the state department of transportation, even if they are also part of the Interstate Highway System or United States Numbered Highway System? This question comes from this discussion. Kk.urban (talk) 00:23, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- The discussion you mentioned is a bit out of scope since this took place on the Simple English Misplaced Pages; I have never interacted with this version. Either way, if state maintenance is the only standard, in my opinion, it is not a very great standard. There are state-maintained roads that are not assigned a route number (e.g. Illinois DOT). There are also sections of Interstates that are not maintained by the state DOT (e.g. Indiana Toll Road). But then again, this is just my take as an English Misplaced Pages (not Simple English Misplaced Pages) editor. AlphaBeta135talk 00:56, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- @AlphaBeta135 Simple English Misplaced Pages will mostly likely follow whatever precedent is decided here. I ask here because Imzadi1979 was stating the purpose of state highways categories, which would apply to English Misplaced Pages also. There are many more editors who contribute to highway articles here, so this is a better place to form consensus. Thanks for your input. Kk.urban (talk) 01:10, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Kk.urban: most of this project forked over to the AARRoads Wiki last year, so there really aren't "many more editors who contribute to highway articles here" anymore. Imzadi 1979 → 01:39, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- @AlphaBeta135 Simple English Misplaced Pages will mostly likely follow whatever precedent is decided here. I ask here because Imzadi1979 was stating the purpose of state highways categories, which would apply to English Misplaced Pages also. There are many more editors who contribute to highway articles here, so this is a better place to form consensus. Thanks for your input. Kk.urban (talk) 01:10, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- The discussion you mentioned is a bit out of scope since this took place on the Simple English Misplaced Pages; I have never interacted with this version. Either way, if state maintenance is the only standard, in my opinion, it is not a very great standard. There are state-maintained roads that are not assigned a route number (e.g. Illinois DOT). There are also sections of Interstates that are not maintained by the state DOT (e.g. Indiana Toll Road). But then again, this is just my take as an English Misplaced Pages (not Simple English Misplaced Pages) editor. AlphaBeta135talk 00:56, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Kk.urban: you missed the second part of my point: state ownership. The two go together because there are unsigned highways. MDOT's definition is very simple from their website: "MDOT is responsible for Michigan's 9,669-mile state highway system, comprised of all M, I, and US routes." Thus, definitionally, the Interstate and US Highways are part of the combined State Trunkline Highway System they administer. They elide over mentioning unsigned state highways or connector routes, but all of those are clearly marked on the Truck Operator's Map or other mapping products published by the department. Imzadi 1979 → 01:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Interstate 20, Scroggins Draw, Texas
The western end of Interstate 20 in Texas is located at an uninhabited place called Scroggins Draw, Texas. The article for that place is being discussed for deletion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Scroggins Draw, Texas. The location seems to have some notability as the place named for the western terminus of Interstate 20, but being generally unfamiliar with highway articles, I am not able to point out sources that use that place name. Is there someone here who can identify a few reliable sources for that location in their list of highway references? RecycledPixels (talk) 22:06, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- @RecycledPixels: Post-deletion comment: The I-10/I-20 interchange was built on top of the old US-80/US-290 intersection. This OR webpage refers to the intersection and the surrounding settlement, such as it was, as "Davis Mountain Junction", though he also admits that the "toponym does not appear on most maps" including the one that he includes on that page (it's also not in the GNIS database), and, in fact, the description excerpt that he shows just above it simply says "west of San Martine". (A WP search for the latter brings up only a red link on TX-3, two instances of a fictional place, and a company name in a court case.) Bottom line, that solidifies the fact that Scroggins Draw was only ever a physical feature. Mapsax (talk) 01:39, 28 April 2024 (UTC) I fixed the I-20 articles, but there's still more to do. Mapsax (talk) 01:56, 28 April 2024 (UTC)