| Revision as of 20:00, 14 August 2024 editWhizkin (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users2,015 edits →List of Israeli Ashkenazi Jews: new sectionTag: New topic← Previous edit | Revision as of 20:07, 14 August 2024 edit undoWhizkin (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users2,015 edits →List of Israeli Ashkenazi JewsNext edit → | ||
| Line 79: | Line 79: | ||
| For example, listing someone like Gilad Shalit in the list of Ashkenazi Jews does nothing to enhance our understanding of who he is. It's not relevant to the broader picture of his life in any way. Moreover, by creating and maintaining these separate lists, we risk reinforcing racial divisions that don't serve any meaningful purpose and may, in fact, perpetuate harmful stereotypes. | For example, listing someone like Gilad Shalit in the list of Ashkenazi Jews does nothing to enhance our understanding of who he is. It's not relevant to the broader picture of his life in any way. Moreover, by creating and maintaining these separate lists, we risk reinforcing racial divisions that don't serve any meaningful purpose and may, in fact, perpetuate harmful stereotypes. | ||
| Instead of maintaining these distinctions, it would be more appropriate to merge the lists into a single "List of Israeli |
Instead of maintaining these distinctions, it would be more appropriate to merge the lists into a single "List of Israeli Jews", and if the article becomes too long, break it down based on another category. ] (]) 20:00, 14 August 2024 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 20:07, 14 August 2024
| Main | Talk Page | Help | Participants | Awards | Article Assessment | Templates | To do | New Articles | Sister Projects |
This Talk page is dedicated to matters related to WikiProject Israel.
| This is the talk page for discussing WikiProject Israel and anything related to its purposes and tasks. |
|
 Archives |
| 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 |
|
This page has archives. Sections older than 60 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III. |
Ofer Winter
A non-extended-confirmed editor (User:Dag21902190) has disputed my revert (on the basis of WP:PIA) of their changes at Ofer Winter. I see the need for updates but will not undo my revert due to other issues with the edits. I don't have the bandwidth to address this, and am therefore notifying the project. See discussion at User talk:Valereee#Non-XC edits re: Arab–Israeli conflict. Thanks, Wracking 20:49, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Also, I encourage further discussion (if there is any) to occur here or at Talk:Ofer Winter to avoid bugging Valereee. Thanks, Wracking 20:51, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Israeli attack on Gaza#Requested move 3 May 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Israeli attack on Gaza#Requested move 3 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. The section is "Three options".
FortunateSons (talk) 10:28, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Feedback: Regional history of the Negev
Hi,
User:Alaexis has asked me to draft something on the agricultural history of the Negev. Since there is no comprehensive history of the Negev that would have been necessary for this (and since the short sections on the history on the Negev page do not align with current research), I have now drafted a regional history of the Negev with a stronger focus on land use. Alexis thinks the page is ready for promotion to the mainspace. I am unsure for two reasons which are noted on the draft page. Would anyone like to give some feedback on this? DaWalda (talk) 13:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Shakshouka has an RfC
Shakshouka has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 22:02, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
Discussion at Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style
You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style#"Modern-day Israel" vs. "Palestine" when only for reader geographical reference, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. Kinsio (talk ★ contribs) 15:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Army Radio#Requested move 14 July 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Army Radio#Requested move 14 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • 22:41, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
An RFC of interest
Please see Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#RFC - Gaza Health Ministry qualifier. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:56, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight
There are two discussion occurring at Talk:1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight#Haifa and Talk:1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight#Unconditional surrender at Haifa: gross misrepresentation discussing whether the article should be edited to further cover the opinions of Benny Morris. Editors are invited to participate. TarnishedPath 06:59, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
An RFC of interest
Please see Talk:List of genocides#RFC - Inclusion of Gaza genocide. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:49, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Ascalon#Requested move 20 July 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Ascalon#Requested move 20 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. --Bolter21 (talk to me) 11:13, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:United States complicity in Israeli war crimes in the Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 24 July 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:United States complicity in Israeli war crimes in the Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 24 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe 00:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Calls for the destruction of Israel#Requested move 31 July 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Calls for the destruction of Israel#Requested move 31 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 10:12, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:2024 Haret Hreik airstrike#Requested move 30 July 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2024 Haret Hreik airstrike#Requested move 30 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 10:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Zana ambush
In the new page feed I came across the Zana ambush, which is orphaned, there are mention in the news about ambushes, but I don't understand what makes this different, unique out side of the main articles. Is the article really needed? What are other peoples thoughts on it? Govvy (talk) 10:30, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Discussion that may be of interest to those here
There is a discussion here about moving Politicization of Middle Eastern food to Israeli appropriation of Arab cuisine. Valereee (talk) 12:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
List of Israeli Ashkenazi Jews
I noticed that Misplaced Pages has articles on List of Israeli Ashkenazi Jews and a List of Israeli Mizrahi and Sephardi Jews.
The division of Jewish people into separate lists based on whether they are Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, or Sephardi feels outdated, racist and unnecessarily divisive. In Israel, many people come from mixed backgrounds and do not fit neatly into these categories. Highlighting someone's Ashkenazi or Mizrahi origin as though it is a defining characteristic seems reductive and potentially harmful.
For example, listing someone like Gilad Shalit in the list of Ashkenazi Jews does nothing to enhance our understanding of who he is. It's not relevant to the broader picture of his life in any way. Moreover, by creating and maintaining these separate lists, we risk reinforcing racial divisions that don't serve any meaningful purpose and may, in fact, perpetuate harmful stereotypes.
Instead of maintaining these distinctions, it would be more appropriate to merge the lists into a single "List of Israeli Jews", and if the article becomes too long, break it down based on another category. Whizkin (talk) 20:00, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Categories: