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I feel like i'm asking a lot of questions, but when I do the citations, what does it mean by ref. group, ref. name, or the ref with the little question mark in the top. --] (]) 23:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC) I feel like i'm asking a lot of questions, but when I do the citations, what does it mean by ref. group, ref. name, or the ref with the little question mark in the top. --] (]) 23:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

:@]: No worries re: asking a lot of questions! That's what I signed up for :P
:*]: as you've noticed, articles have in-line citations that show up in a big list ("References") at the bottom. Sometimes we'll want to add in-line notes that are clarifications rather than references, and these can be differentiated (and shown in separate lists) with ref groups.
:*]: reference names allow us to define a source once and cite it in that article as many times as we need.
:*Not sure what you mean by question mark, can you link to an example?
:*As a note: when it comes to citing sources, we try to ], generally at the end of the sentence they support. This helps both readers and other editors quickly find which source is being used to support which claims in the article.
:Also, I see you're editing American Civil War articles, which is awesome! As a fun fact, my only ] is ], who was a Colonel in the Union Army. And for future questions, while I'm more than happy to continue talking on my talk page, if it'd be easier I'm also on Discord and a few other platforms. ] (]—]) 01:03, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Eliane Aparecida Casagrande Fragoso (17:19, 16 August 2024)

Boa tarde! Sou de origem italiana e gosto muito da cultura desse país. Ouvindo as músicas italianas no Yutube, acabei ouvindo as músicas e a história que terminou em uma fatalidade…O casal Albano e Romina Carrisi- Power que tiveram a vida de sua filha mais velha interrompida por nada que está concreto. E o motivo pelo qual envio essa mensagem, é lembrar a nação italiana que hoje o mundo está unanimemente transformado. Sinto que se nós uníssemos contando com autoridades dos outros países, poderão encontrar Ylenia Carrisi que pode ter sofrido traumas neurológicos… hoje a medicina avançou e o mundo se uniu para o bem ao próximo. Vamos lutar e vamos procurar.( Não vamos desistir) senti em meu coração em deixar essas entrelinhas. Att: - Eliane Aparecida Casagrande Fragoso. --Eliane Aparecida Casagrande Fragoso (talk) 17:19, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

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Question from George.barnes1945 (07:54, 24 August 2024)

Hello. are you a real person or a BOT? I am here NOW because I was trying to login to my existing account. Been here for many many years but not logging in. Donated etc. Just reading.

    Found out - dont know where - that I could save pages access from different devices. I usually use my cell phone, but have dozens of computers in multiple locations.  Not relevant.

.. BUT did not know my user name or password. Bumbled around using my usual suspects, my Google passwords did have record. Tried your password reset which just never knew who I was. Refused to let me use my usual default username: George.barnes45 saying user already exists. ... too much irrelevant detail...

   Slightly modified to George...1945 allowed me to create new setup account. 
   So what do I want.  MERGE any existing accounts. Save topics and pages I have save on my Cell phone to this account. Clean up mess. Dont want multiple accounts. Will confuse me by tomorrow. As obvious from 1945, I am 79 years old and dont want complication in what is left of my life. 
     Not relevant, but I may be 79 but not a dummy. I have a Ph.D in math, published, 35 years teaching University Math and was married to a University Provost. Your Wiki information notes seem to be purposely obscure like they were written by somebody in New Zealand. No offense intended. My wife was born in Minsk and got her doctorate in Christchurch. Will print this out, and toss it at her. --George.barnes1945 (talk) 07:54, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi George.barnes1945! I'm a real person :)
So, there are a few things here:
  • Assuming you're referring to the "saved pages" list in the iOS mobile app, those are tied to your account and only available in the mobile app. On desktop, most browsers have easy ways to make bookmarks, which you can use instead.
  • If you've forgotten the password to your previous account (presumably George.barnes45, which was made ~5 years ago?), you can reset the password if you have an email attached. Without an email attached, you won't be able to reset the password.
While you're still logged in to your original account on your phone, it might be worth writing down the articles on your saved pages list. Then you can log into your current account and re-save those pages. I'm not sure if there's a better way to migrate saved lists from one account to another on mobile, but there is no way to merge Wikimedia accounts. Vermont (🐿️🏳️‍🌈) 23:42, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from GenEli1L1 (15:57, 26 August 2024)

Hey! So I've done quite a bit of editing without an account, and now that I have one I'm going to continue, but I wanted to know when to add/remove red links. And I also was under the impression that places get linked the first time they show up in the page, but I'm 100% sure that is the case. Thank you. --GenEli1L1 (talk) 15:57, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi GenEli1L1! Welcome :)
This guide page on red links has the most specific information, but the short version is: you can link topics that should have articles but currently do not. For example, red links would not be useful for topics that don't meet the notability guideline, because an article shouldn't be created about that topic.
You're correct that topics get linked the first time they show up in the page/major section. There are some exceptions, like in citations or infoboxes. (or were you referring to geographic places?) Best, Vermont (🐿️🏳️‍🌈) 16:27, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
By info boxes you mean the thing in the top right, not the part at the top that summarizes the entire article...right? GenEli1L1 (talk) 16:43, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
@GenEli1L1: Yep! The top-right box, on the articles that have one, is an infobox. The summary bit at the top is usually called a lead. Vermont (🐿️🏳️‍🌈) 21:22, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

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Question from GenEli1L1 (23:48, 26 August 2024)

I feel like i'm asking a lot of questions, but when I do the citations, what does it mean by ref. group, ref. name, or the ref with the little question mark in the top. --GenEli1L1 (talk) 23:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

@GenEli1L1: No worries re: asking a lot of questions! That's what I signed up for :P
  • ref group: as you've noticed, articles have in-line citations that show up in a big list ("References") at the bottom. Sometimes we'll want to add in-line notes that are clarifications rather than references, and these can be differentiated (and shown in separate lists) with ref groups.
  • ref name: reference names allow us to define a source once and cite it in that article as many times as we need.
  • Not sure what you mean by question mark, can you link to an example?
  • As a note: when it comes to citing sources, we try to cite them in-line, generally at the end of the sentence they support. This helps both readers and other editors quickly find which source is being used to support which claims in the article.
Also, I see you're editing American Civil War articles, which is awesome! As a fun fact, my only good article is Charles Mattocks, who was a Colonel in the Union Army. And for future questions, while I'm more than happy to continue talking on my talk page, if it'd be easier I'm also on Discord and a few other platforms. Vermont (🐿️🏳️‍🌈) 01:03, 27 August 2024 (UTC)