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view · edit Frequently asked questions Q1: When was consensus established to name the page Persecution of Uyghurs in China? A1: The current title reflects the consensus established in the most recent move discussion (22 January 2024). Two previous widely attended move discussions (30 June 2020 and 1 April 2021) had resulted in this page being titled Uyghur genocide. Please see Logs and discussions below for the full list of move discussions. In these discussions, editors discussed reporting from reliable sources in light of WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CRITERIA, the first two times establishing an affirmative consensus that the title "Uyghur genocide" is an appropriate name for the article. The third debate, immediately following a 12 January 2024 discussion that was closed as "not moved", citing WP:NCENPOV as the naming convention guideline justifying a shift to the new name.

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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination. Logs and discussions: Move logs: Ethnocide of Uyghurs Cultural genocide of the Uyghurs Cultural genocide of Uyghurs Uyghur genocide allegations Uyghur cultural genocide Uyghur genocide Discussions: RM, Ethnocide of Uyghurs → Cultural genocide of the Uyghurs, Moved, 4 February 2020, (discussion) RM, Cultural genocide of the Uyghurs → Cultural genocide of Uyghurs, Moved, 16 February 2020, (discussion) RM, Cultural genocide of Uyghurs → Uyghur genocide, Moved, 30 June 2020, (discussion) RM, Uyghur genocide → Persecution of Uyghurs, Not Moved, 3 February 2021, (discussion) RM, Uyghur genocide → Uyghur cultural genocide, Not Moved, 1 April 2021, (discussion) RM, Uyghur genocide → Repression of Uyghurs in China, Not Moved, 5 September 2021, (discussion) RM, Uyghur genocide → Uyghur ethnocide, Not Moved, 20 September 2023, (discussion) RM, Uyghur genocide → Uyghur genocide accusation, Not Moved, 12 January 2024, (discussion) RM, Uyghur genocide → Persecution of Uyghurs in China, Moved, 22 January 2024, (discussion)

Excessive references to Adrian Zenz

Adrian Zenz, a senior fellow at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, is referenced 6 times in the Mass detention section and 6 times in the IUDs and birth control section. An over-reliance on research produced by him, despite that he is a heavily interested character in this issue, serves against the credibility and quality of this article. As a leading scholar his findings should be mentioned, of course, but not without qualification or alternative sources and data. NipponGinko (talk) 06:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

It’s likely more once you dig into sources as well; there’s a significant degree of circular reporting involving Zenz. I agree with your idea generally but it’s better to approach in a concrete way. What’s the specific edit or edits you want to make to address the issue? JArthur1984 (talk) 14:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

But he's not a "leading scholar" and his evidence has been endlessly debunked. 2001:1C02:3019:2750:B0C0:AADE:226D:66E (talk) 11:58, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

A single person is not a secondary source. A secondary source is a conglomeration of the author, the reviewers, editors, editing policy, and institution where the work is published, combined with the filter of the secondary review of the primary material. — Shibbolethink 13:40, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Denial of abuses

Should Uyghur genocide denial have it's own article?, I've seen a fair amount of people on the internet who deny it's happening Consistently Heinous (talk) 21:29, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

The Uyghur genocide has been largely been debunked so no. It should not have its own article. 81.44.54.21 (talk) 15:58, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

I’m not sure there’s enough content on the denial itself to generate a separate article, but it should definitely be included in this one. Butterdiplomat (talk) 23:26, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

I concur with Butterdiplomat's doubts about the volume being enough to start a new article. Personally I only know of a handful of 'apologist' news sites. Bear in mind that you will need independent WP:RS saying what person X/organisation Y/ group Z claim is/isn't happening and they would specifically need to say what kind of 'denial' (denial of mistreatment/ or acknowledging mistreatment, but arguing that it doesn't constitute 'genocide' for example). I'm aware of these pitfalls because of similar articles. Pincrete (talk) 05:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Those are straight up tankies and I suggest you sever all contact with them 166.198.175.17 (talk) 07:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Incorrect citation?

In Background - Xinjiang conflict - People's Republic of China (1949–present), there is the sentence:

"In February 1997, a police roundup and execution of 30 suspected "separatists" during Ramadan led to large demonstrations, which led to a PLA crackdown on protesters resulting in at least nine deaths in what became known as the Ghulja incident,"

which has footnote 63, which leads to "China: Human Rights Concerns in Xinjiang" (https://www.hrw.org/backgrounder/asia/china-bck1017.htm) from Human Rights Watch. On that page, regarding the events of 1997, the page only seems to discuss two episodes, demonstrations that were suppressed in February 1997, and some bombings that took place in March 1997. The HRW page doesn't mention the execution of 30 suspected seperatists as a reason for the demonstration, or mention any cause of the demonstration, so I think the citation is used incorrectly here. Or the information may be in the article and I missed it.

I suggest that a new citation be added, which leads to the information about the 30 executed persons, instead of/in addition to the HRW citation.

I am new to wikipedia, please forgive me if there is anything that I have overlooked. L'étatisme (talk) 00:53, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Or if there is any additional information that I should provide. L'étatisme (talk) 00:54, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

You appear to be correct. Thanks. I've added a tag in the hope that someone will correct/remove the unsupported text/citation. Pincrete (talk) 07:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

I have added several citations demonstrating the links between these events, and removed the "30" number, as this is not verifiable. — Shibbolethink 13:55, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Xinjiang internment camps into Persecution of Uyghurs in China

The two articles talk about the same events basically. 159.91.31.13 (talk) 16:54, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

You are free to suggest a merger of the articles, but I would argue that this persecution article is broader in scope than the article on the internment camps. GnocchiFan (talk) 07:38, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Genocide

It’s honestly super weird that this page isn’t called “Uyghur Genocide”. 71.114.123.162 (talk) 18:39, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

It was called "Uyghur Genocide", but time seems to have debunked that. Persecution is true, however. 131.111.5.131 (talk) 20:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Only a relatively small number of sources and states refer to this as the “Uyghur Genocide”, which is our principal naming criterion.Pincrete (talk) 17:51, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

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