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For major contributors of this article, do you think this article is fit for nomination for GA, if so reply to me and I will add it or add it yourself. Sangsangaplaz (talk) 12:41, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

"LGBT liberalism" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Bias?

The term "welfare state" in the opening is a rather biased term. I'm not suggesting it be removed but that some additional commentary be added to it, e.g.,"In Europe and North America, the establishment of social liberalism . . . became a key component in Rawls' theory of liberalism that argues the need for economic safety nets for the poor which some people refer to as the "welfare state." 2601:645:A00:D50:B4BF:E483:8397:24D0 (talk) 18:19, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

You're assuming there's some partisan connotation to the term not actually borne out in its use: it is a very well-established term with a fairly descriptive meaning. Remsense ‥  00:54, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

British Imperialism

Wording in this section is vague, "liberals increasingly understood that people left out of the voting|democratic decision-making process were liable to the 'tyranny of the majority'."

I think the statement is meant to express that the minority tyat had no voting power were likely to be tyrannized by the majority that do have voting power, but the sentence could be made more clear. Geraldpriddle (talk) 23:42, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Misreading of Rawls

Under British Imperialism, "American philosopher John Rawls emphasised the need to ensure equality under the law and the equal distribution of material resources that individuals required to develop their aspirations in life." This is a misreading of Rawls. Rawls did not advocate redistribution in any simple sense.

See p. 72, Theory of Justice, "Social and economic inequalities are to be arranged so that they are both (a) to the greatest expected benefit of the least advantaged and (b) attached to offices and positions open to all under conditions of fair equality of opportunity."

In other words, it may behoove society to pay a talented engineer more money than the unskilled worker if by doing so, that talented engineer can construct improvements that would benefit everyone as a whole.

Rawls, John, Theory of Justice, President and Fellows of Harvard College, Revised Edition, 1999. Geraldpriddle (talk) 00:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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