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The Smithers citation given for this does not draw the conclusion that there is "no evidence" of "two spirit" people in historical Cherokee culture. Rather, it clearly indicates that documentary evidence is ambiguous and that, to paraphrase, written accounts are given undue weight over oral history and other traditions. Additionally, just as we do not need a paragraph discounting a ] made of green cheese in that article, it makes no sense to have a paragraph discounting Two-spirit identities if there is "no evidence" ''and'' no indication of controversy. This reads like someone with an agenda inserted it, rather than ]. ] (]) 22:57, 3 December 2023 (UTC) The Smithers citation given for this does not draw the conclusion that there is "no evidence" of "two spirit" people in historical Cherokee culture. Rather, it clearly indicates that documentary evidence is ambiguous and that, to paraphrase, written accounts are given undue weight over oral history and other traditions. Additionally, just as we do not need a paragraph discounting a ] made of green cheese in that article, it makes no sense to have a paragraph discounting Two-spirit identities if there is "no evidence" ''and'' no indication of controversy. This reads like someone with an agenda inserted it, rather than ]. ] (]) 22:57, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

:All native American Indians were screwed with their land when everyone immigranted ] (]) 03:59, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

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Kevin Stitt, governor of Oklahoma

Include him to the list of famous Cherokee persons in the article, he's an enrolled tribal member of the Cherokee Nation.

I only see one list of famous people and there's a header that says "This includes only Cherokee documented in history. Contemporary notable Cherokee people are listed in the articles for the appropriate tribe." Cannolis (talk) 22:16, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Kevin Stitt is listed as a member of the Cherokee Nation based in Eastern Oklahoma in https://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Cherokee_Nation_people for modern-day famous Cherokees, the article is based on the Cherokee as a whole, but only historic Cherokee persons are listed in the article. Adinneli (talk) 05:02, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

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  1. https://www.oklahoman.com/story/special/2021/04/05/kevin-stitt-oklahomas-first-cherokee-governor/4760388001/

Biltmore

I visited the Biltmore Estate specifically to see what I understand as the last remaining mound there..the person selling the $80 tickets knew nothing about it..as I understand it they were numerous originally which makes sense as it is where two rivers come together..it should be in the article if anyone knows more about it Anonymous8206 (talk) 23:50, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Gender roles & "Two Spirit"

The Smithers citation given for this does not draw the conclusion that there is "no evidence" of "two spirit" people in historical Cherokee culture. Rather, it clearly indicates that documentary evidence is ambiguous and that, to paraphrase, written accounts are given undue weight over oral history and other traditions. Additionally, just as we do not need a paragraph discounting a Moon made of green cheese in that article, it makes no sense to have a paragraph discounting Two-spirit identities if there is "no evidence" and no indication of controversy. This reads like someone with an agenda inserted it, rather than Misplaced Pages:npov. Pyrocatch (talk) 22:57, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

All native American Indians were screwed with their land when everyone immigranted 64.67.31.104 (talk) 03:59, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
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