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| == Examples? == | |||
| ⚫ | What is the diference between a "pitch accent" and a "melodic accent"? | ||
| This is a really interesting concept that is entirely new to me; does anyone know enough to provide some examples? — ] 20:40, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC) | |||
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| :Apart from the examples with anden, I also know about one-syll "stegen"("the steps"(plur) ) two-syll "stegen" ("the ladder") Also, the words "norrmän" and "normen" are spelled different but pronounced similar, (at least in the high-variety Stockholm dialect.) except for the pitch. | |||
| ⚫ | Different function. They have the pitch variation in common, though. Melodic accent |
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| one-syll "norrmän"("the norwegians" (people) ) two-syll normen "the norm/standard". | |||
| I also know about an example in norwegian: "bønner" and "bønner". One means "beans", the other "farmers", although I can't recall now which was which... | |||
| == Pitch/Melodic == | |||
| ⚫ | What might be called the utilization of melodic accent to express differences depending on the roots of words is explained at http://www.webgraph.se/bosse.thoren/prosodi_eng.html |
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| ⚫ | What is the diference between a "pitch accent" and a "melodic accent"? | ||
| ⚫ | :Different function. They have the pitch variation in common, though. Melodic accent depends on grammatical rules, and may for instance accentuate in a similar way as vocal stress is used in other languages — or together with vocal stress. | ||
| ⚫ | What might be called the utilization of melodic accent to express differences depending on the roots of words is explained at http://www.webgraph.se/bosse.thoren/prosodi_eng.html — however, I do not agree with the author of that page when he states that there be no difference in vocal stress. That page also lacks comparisons between the different melodic accents typical for the language's high status varieties. | ||
| --] 16:09, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC) | |||
| (Copied from Johan Magnus' answer at the "Pitch accent" page.) | |||
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Examples?
This is a really interesting concept that is entirely new to me; does anyone know enough to provide some examples? — OwenBlacker 20:40, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC)
- Apart from the examples with anden, I also know about one-syll "stegen"("the steps"(plur) ) two-syll "stegen" ("the ladder") Also, the words "norrmän" and "normen" are spelled different but pronounced similar, (at least in the high-variety Stockholm dialect.) except for the pitch.
one-syll "norrmän"("the norwegians" (people) ) two-syll normen "the norm/standard". I also know about an example in norwegian: "bønner" and "bønner". One means "beans", the other "farmers", although I can't recall now which was which...
Pitch/Melodic
What is the diference between a "pitch accent" and a "melodic accent"?
- Different function. They have the pitch variation in common, though. Melodic accent depends on grammatical rules, and may for instance accentuate in a similar way as vocal stress is used in other languages — or together with vocal stress.
What might be called the utilization of melodic accent to express differences depending on the roots of words is explained at http://www.webgraph.se/bosse.thoren/prosodi_eng.html — however, I do not agree with the author of that page when he states that there be no difference in vocal stress. That page also lacks comparisons between the different melodic accents typical for the language's high status varieties. (Copied from Johan Magnus' answer at the "Pitch accent" page.)