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*'''Support new image''' The current four images are low-quality, inconsistent, and unnecessarily clutter the infobox. More importantly, they fail to represent Parkinson's disease accurately, given its highly variable symptoms, which range from low blood pressure to cognitive decline. It's not even very clear what symptoms the current lead images are trying to illustrate, like the circled foot. These images violate ] as they are not genuinely representative. In contrast, a Lewy body—widely recognized as the hallmark biological feature of Parkinson's disease—provides a more accurate and universal depiction. Trying to accurately depict patients afflicted with a disease in the lead image is almost impossible and is not the standard on Misplaced Pages: see ], ], ], or other neurodegenerative diseases like ], the FA ], ], ], ], or ]. ~ ]] 02:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
*'''Support new image''' The current four images are low-quality, inconsistent, and unnecessarily clutter the infobox. More importantly, they fail to represent Parkinson's disease accurately, given its highly variable symptoms, which range from low blood pressure to cognitive decline. It's not even very clear what symptoms the current lead images are trying to illustrate, like the circled foot. These images violate ] as they are not genuinely representative. In contrast, a Lewy body—widely recognized as the hallmark biological feature of Parkinson's disease—provides a more accurate and universal depiction. Trying to accurately depict patients afflicted with a disease in the lead image is almost impossible and is not the standard on Misplaced Pages: see ], ], ], or other neurodegenerative diseases like ], the FA ], ], ], ], or ]. ~ ]] 02:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
*'''No''' {{sbb}} I don't find microscopic images of damaged tissue very informative to understanding the effect of a disease. The current image has been in the article for about one year, and was in the article as early as . So there seems to be a long-running consensus to keep a image such as the current one. About a year ago was floated and apparently rejected, which might be an acceptable alternative to the current one. --] (]) 03:53, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
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Since I'm revising larger parts of the article, I want to explain my further intentions in this talk page. If you have any thoughts on my edits, feel free to add a new paragraph to this discussion and I will try to describe them more detailed.
While I appreciate the inclusion of the fact that non-motor symptoms may precede motor symptoms, most of the paragraph's content is repetitive and too specific for the "lead section" of the symptom subheading. For example, the specification of prevalence and the mention of pneumonia, which is more of a complication linked to prognosis rather than a symptom, are overly detailed for this section. Additionally, two out of the three sources are outdated: one is from 2008 and another from 2016, indicating that the data may no longer be current. The remaining source, from 2023, primarily addresses treatment and intervention options for dysphagia rather than the broader range of symptoms mentioned.
What I did now: Preserving the paragraph in its current form seems neither feasible nor useful imho (WP:IAR, WP:BB). The guideline states "fix problems if you can, tag or excise them if you can't", and I don't see a way to just "fix" this without rewriting it substantially. Nevertheless, I proceeded cautiously. Thus, I altered the paragraph, included one major symptom from each non-motor subheading, made the wording more concise, and shortened some formulations. Regarding the sources, I removed the outdated ones and moved the dysphagia-related source to the section specifically discussing dysphagia. For the rest, I provided up-to-date literature.
I hope you, Dustfreeworld, understand and approve of my approach. If you have any further ideas or objections to my edits, please let me know. –Tobias (talk) 09:45, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Dustfreeworld has been banned from medical topics, so we should not expect them to respond. Perhaps other editors will. NebY (talk) 10:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
under causes and risk factors, it states '85% of cases are sporadic, meaning there is no family history' however directly under that it states 'heritability lies around 22-45%'
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Should the four images currently used in the infobox be replaced with the one of a Lewy body below?
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Support new image The current four images are low-quality, inconsistent, and unnecessarily clutter the infobox. More importantly, they fail to represent Parkinson's disease accurately, given its highly variable symptoms, which range from low blood pressure to cognitive decline. It's not even very clear what symptoms the current lead images are trying to illustrate, like the circled foot. These images violate Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Lead section as they are not genuinely representative. In contrast, a Lewy body—widely recognized as the hallmark biological feature of Parkinson's disease—provides a more accurate and universal depiction. Trying to accurately depict patients afflicted with a disease in the lead image is almost impossible and is not the standard on Misplaced Pages: see Cancer, Tuberculosis, Syphilis, or other neurodegenerative diseases like Huntington's disease, the FA Dementia with Lewy bodies, Multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer's disease, ALS, or Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease. ~ HAL33302:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
No (Summoned by bot) I don't find microscopic images of damaged tissue very informative to understanding the effect of a disease. The current image has been in the article for about one year, and this simpler image was in the article as early as 6-1-2019. So there seems to be a long-running consensus to keep a image such as the current one. About a year ago this image was floated and apparently rejected, which might be an acceptable alternative to the current one. --David Tornheim (talk) 03:53, 14 December 2024 (UTC)