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	*'''Support new image''' The current four images are low-quality, inconsistent, and unnecessarily clutter the infobox. More importantly, they fail to represent Parkinson's disease accurately, given its highly variable symptoms, which range from low blood pressure to cognitive decline. It's not even very clear what symptoms the current lead images are trying to illustrate, like the circled foot. These images violate ] as they are not genuinely representative. In contrast, a Lewy body—widely recognized as the hallmark biological feature of Parkinson's disease—provides a more accurate and universal depiction. Trying to accurately depict patients afflicted with a disease in the lead image is almost impossible and is not the standard on Misplaced Pages: see ], ], ], or other neurodegenerative diseases like ], the FA ], ], ], ], or ]. ~ ]] 02:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC)		*'''Support new image''' The current four images are low-quality, inconsistent, and unnecessarily clutter the infobox. More importantly, they fail to represent Parkinson's disease accurately, given its highly variable symptoms, which range from low blood pressure to cognitive decline. It's not even very clear what symptoms the current lead images are trying to illustrate, like the circled foot. These images violate ] as they are not genuinely representative. In contrast, a Lewy body—widely recognized as the hallmark biological feature of Parkinson's disease—provides a more accurate and universal depiction. Trying to accurately depict patients afflicted with a disease in the lead image is almost impossible and is not the standard on Misplaced Pages: see ], ], ], or other neurodegenerative diseases like ], the FA ], ], ], ], or ]. ~ ]] 02:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
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	*'''No''' {{sbb}} I don't find microscopic images of damaged tissue very informative to understanding the effect of a disease. The current image has been in the article for about one year, and of the "Gowers' illustration" was in the article as early as . In 2011, it was even a featured article with the "Gowers' illustration". Based on the discussions I included above, the Gowler's illustration seems historically significant--so I prefer seeing it included high up in the article as it is now. There seems to be a long-running consensus to keep an image such as the current one. About a year ago was floated and apparently rejected, which might be an acceptable alternative to the current one. --] (]) 04:28, 14 December 2024 (UTC)		*'''No''' {{sbb}} I don't find microscopic images of damaged tissue very informative to understanding the effect of a disease. The current image has been in the article for about one year, and of the "Gowers' illustration" was in the article as early as . In 2011, it was even a featured article with the "Gowers' illustration". Based on the discussions I included above, the Gowler's illustration seems historically significant--so I prefer seeing it included high up in the article as it is now. There seems to be a long-running consensus to keep an image such as the current one. About a year ago was floated and apparently rejected, which might be an acceptable alternative to the current one. --] (]) 04:28, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
	: No. I don't think the proposed picture of a Lewy body helps the reader to understand anything at all about Parkinson's. --		*'''No'''. I don't think the proposed picture of a Lewy body helps the reader to understand anything at all about Parkinson's. --] (]) 11:21, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
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contradiction?

under causes and risk factors, it states '85% of cases are sporadic, meaning there is no family history' however directly under that it states 'heritability lies around 22-45%'

is this perhaps just an inconsistency between two studies? 194.193.48.192 (talk) 10:37, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

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@HAL333, in this edit you added an sfn to Bhattacharyya (2017), but didn't add the long-form source. Could you add it to the bibliography please? Thanks, Wham2001 (talk) 17:53, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Wham2001, oops. Thanks for catching that. I've just fixed it. Cheers. ~ HAL333 22:15, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Wham2001 (talk) 08:45, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

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RfC: Should the four lead images be replaced?

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Should the four images currently used in the infobox be replaced with this one of a Lewy body below? ~ HAL333 02:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

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2023, 2022, 2013, 3-25-2011, 3-8-2011, 2008, 2006 ~ HAL333 02:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

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Support new image The current four images are low-quality, inconsistent, and unnecessarily clutter the infobox. More importantly, they fail to represent Parkinson's disease accurately, given its highly variable symptoms, which range from low blood pressure to cognitive decline. It's not even very clear what symptoms the current lead images are trying to illustrate, like the circled foot. These images violate Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Lead section as they are not genuinely representative. In contrast, a Lewy body—widely recognized as the hallmark biological feature of Parkinson's disease—provides a more accurate and universal depiction. Trying to accurately depict patients afflicted with a disease in the lead image is almost impossible and is not the standard on Misplaced Pages: see Cancer, Tuberculosis, Syphilis, or other neurodegenerative diseases like Huntington's disease, the FA Dementia with Lewy bodies, Multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer's disease, ALS, or Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease. ~ HAL333 02:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
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No (Summoned by bot) I don't find microscopic images of damaged tissue very informative to understanding the effect of a disease. The current image has been in the article for about one year, and this simpler image of the "Gowers' illustration" was in the article as early as 6-1-2019. In 2011, it was even a featured article with the "Gowers' illustration". Based on the discussions I included above, the Gowler's illustration seems historically significant--so I prefer seeing it included high up in the article as it is now. There seems to be a long-running consensus to keep an image such as the current one. About a year ago this image was floated and apparently rejected, which might be an acceptable alternative to the current one. --David Tornheim (talk) 04:28, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
No. I don't think the proposed picture of a Lewy body helps the reader to understand anything at all about Parkinson's. --Alarics (talk) 11:21, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

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