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I understand that it contains categories of course, but is the intent for ] to be emptied of categories? Or perhaps a catch-all category, while ] is for commonly useful maintenance categories (generally omitting technical ones like the 'Page displaying...' series)? Something else? ] (]) 23:56, 18 December 2024 (UTC) I understand that it contains categories of course, but is the intent for ] to be emptied of categories? Or perhaps a catch-all category, while ] is for commonly useful maintenance categories (generally omitting technical ones like the 'Page displaying...' series)? Something else? ] (]) 23:56, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

== Diplomats categories ==

I noticed we have a lot of over categorization in Diplomats categories, partly because many people in Fooian diplomats are also in multiple fooian Ambassadors to Boo, often for multiple boos. I posted something about 1 such case in which the 2 Fooian Ambassadors to Boo categories each only had 1 article, the person is in Fooian diplomats, so we could move from 2 1 article not helping navigation categories and 1 large Category in that case Ambassadors of Greece, Ambassadors to Brazil and Ambassadors to another country that I forget. I posted it on User Smasongarrison's talk page, so you can go there to see the exact details of what I think would nee to happen, it would require a CfD nomination, but I do not think we really need a person in 2 1 article categories. This got me thinking more broadly about how the ambassador and diplomat categories are organized. I discussed the matter with S. Mason Garrison and she thought it would be good to post about it somewhere that more would notice. I am about to posy that idea below.] (]) 16:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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Category:Diamond League winners

The editor @Apple15367: has recently added this category to a large number of articles. Out of curiosity, and because I'd come across them misapplying (in good faith) another category, I had a look at some of these articles. They don't seem to mention the Diamond League, which is a complex of different athletics events. The two I looked at in detail don't even seem to mention the Diamond League component events in which the person was a winner.

I started to word a WP:CFD, but then realised that the category, which has existed since 2020, may not be inherently deletion-worthy, although I think that it is being misapplied. Athletics is not my natural habitat, so I'm asking categorisation geeks here for a view on this.

The text I had written before stopping the CfD nomination (I'd argued myself out of it) was:

This does not seem to be a useful category. I noticed it being added to a large number of articles recently. The Diamond League does not appear to be mentioned in their articles. Consider Pamela Dutkiewicz: yes, she is listed in 2018 Diamond League, but there is no mention in her article of the Diamond League or of the Birmingham 2018 British Grand Prix (athletics) event, within the Diamond League, corresponding to that table entry. Similarly Ihab Abdelrahmans article doesn't mention the 2014 Shanghai event, or the 2015 Doha and Rome events, or the 2016 Eugene event, which are the Diamond events in his "What links here", though it does have a Diamond League entry in his External Links. Perhaps someone has gone through the Diamond League events pages and added the category for all the names mentioned there, but is this sufficient? If a category is significant for a person, the relevant events should be mentioned on their page. Perhaps this is not so much a case for deletion of the category but for caution in its use?

Any views on the use, or existence, of this category? is it WP:Overcategorisation? Is there a relevant guideline? PamD 21:41, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

PS I am not Pamela Dutkiewicz: it's just that face with a list of names from which to pick an example I tend to gravitate towards similar names! (Just in case anyone wondered). PamD 21:46, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Category and Article Matching

Greetings. I have one question:

A few months ago, Edenvale, Gauteng was renamed to Edenvale, South Africa and Kempton Park, Gauteng was renamed to Kempton Park, South Africa. So, should I request for Category:People from Edenvale, Gauteng to be renamed to "Category:People from Edenvale, South Africa" & should I request for Category:Suburbs of Kempton Park, Gauteng to be renamed to "Category:Suburbs of Kempton Park, South Africa"? GeographicAccountant (talk) 19:16, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Biology-related category loop

I noticed a category loop. Specifically, Category:PrimatologyCategory:Biological anthropologyCategory:Human biologyCategory:HumansCategory:HomininaCategory:HomininiCategory:HomininaeCategory:HominidaeCategory:ApesCategory:Primate taxonomyCategory:Primate taxaCategory:PrimatesCategory:PrimatologyCategory:Biological anthropology ⊂…, which has length twelve. (There are also overlapping loops, such as one using Category:Biological anthropologyCategory:AnthropologyCategory:Humans instead of Category:Biological anthropologyCategory:Human biologyCategory:Humans.) How shall we fix this? I personally favor changing Category:Primate taxonomyCategory:Primate taxa to Category:Primate taxonomyCategory:Primate taxa, but because the category loop is so long (twelve members), there are many other possibilities for others' consensus to settle on. Care to differ or discuss with me? The N User 20:07, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Shortcut index#CAT decapitalized

Check the discussion I started at Misplaced Pages talk:Shortcut index#CAT decapitalized. Web-julio (talk) 06:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Maintenance categories

Would any contributors mind clarifying the purpose of this category with respect to Category:Misplaced Pages maintenance?

I understand that it contains categories of course, but is the intent for Category:Misplaced Pages maintenance to be emptied of categories? Or perhaps a catch-all category, while Category:Maintenance categories is for commonly useful maintenance categories (generally omitting technical ones like the 'Page displaying...' series)? Something else? Tule-hog (talk) 23:56, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Diplomats categories

I noticed we have a lot of over categorization in Diplomats categories, partly because many people in Fooian diplomats are also in multiple fooian Ambassadors to Boo, often for multiple boos. I posted something about 1 such case in which the 2 Fooian Ambassadors to Boo categories each only had 1 article, the person is in Fooian diplomats, so we could move from 2 1 article not helping navigation categories and 1 large Category in that case Ambassadors of Greece, Ambassadors to Brazil and Ambassadors to another country that I forget. I posted it on User Smasongarrison's talk page, so you can go there to see the exact details of what I think would nee to happen, it would require a CfD nomination, but I do not think we really need a person in 2 1 article categories. This got me thinking more broadly about how the ambassador and diplomat categories are organized. I discussed the matter with S. Mason Garrison and she thought it would be good to post about it somewhere that more would notice. I am about to posy that idea below.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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