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{{Ping|Nomian}} Do you have any sources to dispute the content you are so far? Just citing the lack of existence of a talk page discussion is not enough. See ]. ] <small><small>]</small></small> 00:14, 28 December 2024 (UTC) | {{Ping|Nomian}} Do you have any sources to dispute the content you are so far? Just citing the lack of existence of a talk page discussion is not enough. See ]. ] <small><small>]</small></small> 00:14, 28 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
:I have reverted to the before the edit wars began. This version is old and much more stable than the I reverted. There are a lot of issues with the reverted version, some of which I am explaining below: | |||
:The version says "Bengali Muslims were targeted in this pogrom due to supposedly retaining Hindu traditions." That is a blatant ] since there is no source that says "Bengali Muslims" were "targeted", it is the Hindus who were targeted according to the sources. The quotation from the cited source says "Muslim Bengali women have been raped by Pakistani soldiers", yes they were raped but the targets were essentially Hindus. see Islam, M. Rafiqul (2019). National Trials of International Crimes in Bangladesh: Transitional Justice as Reflected in Judgments. BRILL. pp. 175. ISBN 978-90-04-38938-0. quote: "The Pakistani occupation army and its local collaborators targeted mostly the Hindu women and girls for rape and sexual violence." | |||
:The version also says "Bengali Muslim men were targets of rape by West Pakistani soldiers as well." That is another ], as I said, there is no source that says Bengali Muslims were the targets. The cited source here says "Oral testimonies I have gathered suggest that Bengali Muslim men were raped", this is a personal opinion of the author, and thus ], fails ]. Yet, the source in no part says that they were the "targets". | |||
:I would also recommend reading '']'' by ], a breakthrough research on this genocide where he states, ''there was mounting evidence that among the Bengalis, the Hindu minority was doubly marked out for persecution.'' Essentially, it is the targeting of the Hindus that makes it a case for genocide. ] (]) 01:14, 28 December 2024 (UTC) |
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The first paragraph of the International Reactions header is repeated twice. Zargham Ali (talk) 14:51, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
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Not all Imams and Mullahs said that in support of Pakistan, Many Imams and other religious scholars supported the Bangladesh Liberation Cause or condemned the assault. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 14:38, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
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@Nomian: Do you have any sources to dispute the content you are reverting so far? Just citing the lack of existence of a talk page discussion is not enough. See WP:STONEWALL. Nxcrypto Message 00:14, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have reverted to the status quo version before the edit wars began. This version is more than a year old and much more stable than the version I reverted. There are a lot of issues with the reverted version, some of which I am explaining below:
- The version says "Bengali Muslims were targeted in this pogrom due to supposedly retaining Hindu traditions." That is a blatant WP:OR since there is no source that says "Bengali Muslims" were "targeted", it is the Hindus who were targeted according to the sources. The quotation from the cited source says "Muslim Bengali women have been raped by Pakistani soldiers", yes they were raped but the targets were essentially Hindus. see Islam, M. Rafiqul (2019). National Trials of International Crimes in Bangladesh: Transitional Justice as Reflected in Judgments. BRILL. pp. 175. ISBN 978-90-04-38938-0. quote: "The Pakistani occupation army and its local collaborators targeted mostly the Hindu women and girls for rape and sexual violence."
- The version also says "Bengali Muslim men were targets of rape by West Pakistani soldiers as well." That is another WP:OR, as I said, there is no source that says Bengali Muslims were the targets. The cited source here says "Oral testimonies I have gathered suggest that Bengali Muslim men were raped", this is a personal opinion of the author, and thus WP:PRIMARY, fails WP:HISTRS. Yet, the source in no part says that they were the "targets".
- I would also recommend reading The Blood Telegram: Nixon, Kissinger, and a Forgotten Genocide by Gary J. Bass, a breakthrough research on this genocide where he states, there was mounting evidence that among the Bengalis, the Hindu minority was doubly marked out for persecution. Essentially, it is the targeting of the Hindus that makes it a case for genocide. A.Musketeer (talk) 01:14, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
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