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| *'''comment''' There was no country like this. The Estonia SSR was granted some economic and civil liberties under the charter of USSR, thats all. A change in legistration does not make it a new country. No state symbols or government form changes at all. There was Estonian SSR(that was not an independent country) until reinstatement of Republic of Estonia in 1991. Besides that, this article contadics ]. {{Unsigned2|23:51, 2 May 2007|Alexia Death}} | *'''comment''' There was no country like this. The Estonia SSR was granted some economic and civil liberties under the charter of USSR, thats all. A change in legistration does not make it a new country. No state symbols or government form changes at all. There was Estonian SSR(that was not an independent country) until reinstatement of Republic of Estonia in 1991. Besides that, this article contadics ]. {{Unsigned2|23:51, 2 May 2007|Alexia Death}} | ||
| *'''Speedy keep''' - When I first saw this article, I thought it was Estonian nationalist POV-pushing to delegitimize the ] (Exactly the opposite of what the nominators of this and ] claim.) I first considered suggesting a merge to ESSR, but after seeing the related ] article I understood its logic. The deletion proposal is an effort to push a Estonian POV in the wake of the Estonian - Russian ] conflict, possibly bad faith. | *'''Speedy keep''' - When I first saw this article, I thought it was Estonian nationalist POV-pushing to delegitimize the ] (Exactly the opposite of what the nominators of this and ] claim.) I first considered suggesting a merge to ESSR, but after seeing the related ] article I understood its logic. The deletion proposal is an effort to push a Estonian POV in the wake of the Estonian - Russian ] conflict, possibly bad faith. | ||
| :How can stating a fact be POV is beyond me, but say what you may, Estonian SSR was never independent and a minor granting of liberties do not make it neither independent nor a new country. As to why no deletion tag earlier,I did not know about this article. Thanks for showing me, that such articles existed, so mistakes can be corrected. ] 22:36, 2 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Estonian SSR (independent)
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Legally no such country has ever existed. Alexia Death 14:31, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
- I note that the companion/rival article Republic of Estonia (1990-1991) has also been nominated for deletion. StAnselm 14:51, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
- It's apparently a companion; these two have been created by the same person, Läänemere lained. They are both equally meritless. Digwuren 22:35, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Are you saying this is a Hoax? Otherwise, if it was self-governing for two years I say Keep CitiCat 15:25, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
- I say its a hoax. Read the Estonian history article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexia Death (talk • contribs) 23:51, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
- comment this seems like a complex content dispute that is not best handled at AFD, as certainly the history of Estonia should be documented, especially in the wake of the collapse of the Soviet Union. Whether or not this article, or another one is adequately sourced, or the appropriate way to cover it is a question best suited for some form of Dispute resolution. Mister.Manticore 16:36, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. Nobody is suggesting not documenting history of Estonia. In fact, history of Estonia has been considerably documented in the aptly named article History of Estonia, as well as ].
- However, this article is not about documenting history of Estonia. It is about a fictional legal construct; about a state transforming into another state where such transformation never happened.
- No state of "Estonian SSR (independent)" has ever been declared, nor recognised by any foreign power, nor international body. Digwuren 22:35, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
- comment There was no country like this. The Estonia SSR was granted some economic and civil liberties under the charter of USSR, thats all. A change in legistration does not make it a new country. No state symbols or government form changes at all. There was Estonian SSR(that was not an independent country) until reinstatement of Republic of Estonia in 1991. Besides that, this article contadics History of Estonia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexia Death (talk • contribs) 23:51, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
- Speedy keep - When I first saw this article, I thought it was Estonian nationalist POV-pushing to delegitimize the Estonian SSR (Exactly the opposite of what the nominators of this and Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Republic of Estonia (1990-1991) claim.) I first considered suggesting a merge to ESSR, but after seeing the related Republic of Estonia (1990-1991) article I understood its logic. The deletion proposal is an effort to push a Estonian POV in the wake of the Estonian - Russian Bronze Soldier conflict, possibly bad faith.
- How can stating a fact be POV is beyond me, but say what you may, Estonian SSR was never independent and a minor granting of liberties do not make it neither independent nor a new country. As to why no deletion tag earlier,I did not know about this article. Thanks for showing me, that such articles existed, so mistakes can be corrected. Alexia Death 22:36, 2 May 2007 (UTC)