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I have removed both of these claims. As of 2007, the idea that immigrants would be "disenfranchised" by "restrictive citizenship laws" is not even a notable ] in Estonian politics anymore, as it was in 1992, or when ] of the ] made his infamous declarations. It mainly a private POV of ], and does not deserve Misplaced Pages as its soapbox. ] 18:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC) I have removed both of these claims. As of 2007, the idea that immigrants would be "disenfranchised" by "restrictive citizenship laws" is not even a notable ] in Estonian politics anymore, as it was in 1992, or when ] of the ] made his infamous declarations. It mainly a private POV of ], and does not deserve Misplaced Pages as its soapbox. ] 18:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

:Disenfranchisement and denaturalisatrion (or what ever you want to call them) were not only the policy, but the cause of existance of the Congress. Disenfranchisement was achieved in two ways:
:#By pressuring the Supreme Soviet into accepting citizenship and election laws that limited citizenship to ''jus sanguinis'' Estonians.
:#By its existance as a shadow parliament elected among the enfranchised.
:-- ] 07:47, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

== ...some POV ==
Estonians had the option of following a "democratic" path to independence. The independence movement originated in the ]. The Supreme Soviet "affirmed" Estonia's independence on August 20. By September 17 it was a full member of the ]. The fast acceptance of Estonia into the UN, and the almost immediate acknowledgement of its independence was based on the premise, that the new Republic of Estonia was the ] of the ] (Oops! you ]!) and the ], inheriting its liabilities and citizens.

This was however unaceptable to the Congress, hence the constitutional changes of 1992. In fact Estonian ] list ] and ] (written by Mart Laar, I hear) as the first ] and ] of independent Estonia, signifying a ] between the independent Estonia of ] and ]

-- ] 07:47, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

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Disenfranchisement

Petri Krohn has repeatedly attempted to push disenfranchisement into this article, as he has done repeatedly before -- most notably in Bronze Soldier of Tallinn. A new twist is sliding the evaluative claim of "restrictive citizenship laws" in.

I have removed both of these claims. As of 2007, the idea that immigrants would be "disenfranchised" by "restrictive citizenship laws" is not even a notable WP:POV in Estonian politics anymore, as it was in 1992, or when Max van der Stoel of the OCSE made his infamous declarations. It mainly a private POV of Petri Krohn, and does not deserve Misplaced Pages as its soapbox. Digwuren 18:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Disenfranchisement and denaturalisatrion (or what ever you want to call them) were not only the policy, but the cause of existance of the Congress. Disenfranchisement was achieved in two ways:
  1. By pressuring the Supreme Soviet into accepting citizenship and election laws that limited citizenship to jus sanguinis Estonians.
  2. By its existance as a shadow parliament elected among the enfranchised.
-- Petri Krohn 07:47, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

...some POV

Estonians had the option of following a "democratic" path to independence. The independence movement originated in the Communist Party of Estonia. The Supreme Soviet "affirmed" Estonia's independence on August 20. By September 17 it was a full member of the United Nations. The fast acceptance of Estonia into the UN, and the almost immediate acknowledgement of its independence was based on the premise, that the new Republic of Estonia was the successor state of the Republic of Estonia (1990-1991) (Oops! you deleted the article!) and the Estonian SSR, inheriting its liabilities and citizens.

This was however unaceptable to the Congress, hence the constitutional changes of 1992. In fact Estonian school book list Lennart Meri and Mart Laar (written by Mart Laar, I hear) as the first President and Prime Minister of independent Estonia, signifying a revolutionary breach of legal continuity between the independent Estonia of Arnold Rüütel and Edgar Savisaar

-- Petri Krohn 07:47, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

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