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*'''Comment''' Why does the nominater himself close a AfD that was established only one day ago? Just for the record my entry to the debate just follows.] 10:10, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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  • Keep -- To keep myself unbiased, I didn't read the previous afd. I know nothing about this product. I read the article, and googled the product. It does pass WP:NOTE in my mind. However, the article itself is in terrible shape and reads like an advertising brochure. -- MisterHand 22:57, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment -- I should mention the sponsors of John Spikowski are Kekus, RealVis, Easypano,.... which are competing products to PTgui. All other programs are listed in suggested replacement page Panorama Stitchers, Viewers and Utilities with very shiny words and promo talk. You call yourself unbiased? Why should PTgui not have its own page? --Wuz 23:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment -- I have not referenced the group I support on any of the pages. I will let others make the determination if the PanoTools group should be added as a resource. The PanoTools groups few sponsors also support many of the other panorama portals and support groups. Please focus on why PTgui should have it's own page on the Misplaced Pages. John Spikowski 00:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I am not talking about your page, I am talking about your sponsors that are all listed. --Wuz 00:19, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
The page list all the active panorama solutions I know of. (not just my few sponsors that contribute $50 a month to keep the server going) I have no personal reasons for building this page other then to not repeat the same mistakes made on the PanoToolsNG wiki project where it's very difficult to find anything. John Spikowski 00:43, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
So you get each month money from those companies and you want us to believe that you are unbiased and we are on the same mailing list as the author of PtGui and heavy users (and paying customers) and we are more biased then you? --Wuz 01:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
When did the PTgui promotional page on the Misplaced Pages become a forum for non-profit group facilities funding? Can you PLEASE stay on topic? Attacking me isn't going to convince anyone that the PTgui, Hugin (software) and your Pano2QTVR topics deserve their own pages. Bias or not isn't the issue here. John Spikowski 01:20, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I think everyone should be aware of your motivations to file the second AfD for this aricle within 5 days. --Wuz 01:26, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
The discussion for removal was never resolved and notablity not established. (the reason it was nominated for inclusion in the combined resource) John Spikowski 02:06, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Dominique, I don't hate PTgui, I think it's a wonderful product and the reason I'm trying to get it on a page where people will find it. If you knew nothing about panorama photography and did a search and PTgui and Panorama Stitchers, Viewers and Utilities links were presented. Which link would you click on? John Spikowski 07:56, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep The article should be kept. Strange enough, the only person disturbed by this article is John Spikowski.
Not disturbed at all. Just trying to clean up the bad wiki habits a few NG members brought with them. John Spikowski 09:28, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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  • Comment Why does the nominater himself close a AfD that was established only one day ago? Just for the record my entry to the debate just follows.Einemnet 10:10, 18 May 2007 (UTC)