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:Where's your proof that they are lies, Modemac? I'm still investigating Dean/Dobb's claims (it's still unclear ''what'' his actual name is (let alone anything else he says), considering I've emailed several people who claim to know him and refer to him as "Dobbs", not "Dean" (as I have posted to ]). Taking Stang's word for it (and anyone associated with him, such as you) is just as hypocritical. ∞] <sup>(]|])</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2007 (UTC) :Where's your proof that they are lies, Modemac? I'm still investigating Dean/Dobb's claims (it's still unclear ''what'' his actual name is (let alone anything else he says), considering I've emailed several people who claim to know him and refer to him as "Dobbs", not "Dean" (as I have posted to ]). Taking Stang's word for it (and anyone associated with him, such as you) is just as hypocritical. ∞] <sup>(]|])</sup> 05:28, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

: , and this exact subject was argued over there. Your pretending that it didn't is just trolling. The burden of proof is on Dean to provide evidence that he "inspired" Ivan Stang and Philo Drummond (he didn't), that he was an "intelligence agent" in the 1950s (he wasn't), that he was born in Paris in 1922 (he wasn't), that his ridiculous claims of meeting famous figures (again, such as Hitler and Prince Charles) actually happened (they didn't), and that he is anything at all other than a silly kook who invents Munchausen-like stories about himself in an attempt to sound important and get attention by stealing the hard work of others. He has yet to provide evidence of his lies, and he can't because they're just hot air. This makes any "evidence" such as those blog interviews or ''Paranoia'' magazine articles or podcast interviews unreliable, and thus they do not hold up to ]. --] 11:27, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

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So-called "Bob Dobbs" information is inaccurate and not NPOV

First, the links to Bob Marshall and Robert Dean are incorrect; neither of them have anything to do with this person at CKLN.

And also, if you want a "RELIABLE" source, then an interview with Bob Dean is hardly "reliable." As has already been said both here and here, this is a man who claims to be over 80 years old, to have met Hitler, to have introduced Prince Charles to Lady Diana, and who "inspired" the Church of the SubGenius -- all of which are flat-out lies. Based on this, claims by Dean as to his origins are also unreliable. --Modemac 20:19, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Where's your proof that they are lies, Modemac? I'm still investigating Dean/Dobb's claims (it's still unclear what his actual name is (let alone anything else he says), considering I've emailed several people who claim to know him and refer to him as "Dobbs", not "Dean" (as I have posted to alt.slack). Taking Stang's word for it (and anyone associated with him, such as you) is just as hypocritical. ∞ΣɛÞ² 05:28, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
This exact conversation took place on alt.slack a month ago, and this exact subject was argued over there. Your pretending that it didn't is just trolling. The burden of proof is on Dean to provide evidence that he "inspired" Ivan Stang and Philo Drummond (he didn't), that he was an "intelligence agent" in the 1950s (he wasn't), that he was born in Paris in 1922 (he wasn't), that his ridiculous claims of meeting famous figures (again, such as Hitler and Prince Charles) actually happened (they didn't), and that he is anything at all other than a silly kook who invents Munchausen-like stories about himself in an attempt to sound important and get attention by stealing the hard work of others. He has yet to provide evidence of his lies, and he can't because they're just hot air. This makes any "evidence" such as those blog interviews or Paranoia magazine articles or podcast interviews unreliable, and thus they do not hold up to WP:V Misplaced Pages's standard of verifiability. --Modemac 11:27, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
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