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| ::Wholesale deletions without real discussion is vandalism. ] 00:24, 26 June 2007 (UTC) | ::Wholesale deletions without real discussion is vandalism. ] 00:24, 26 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
| :::For example: removing the fruit table? The other Pac-articles have them. The reason is flippant. Removing the "!" in the Achievement box? They're there because the actual achievements use the exclamation points. If you want to condense the gameplay changes, fine, but some of that "reasoning" was making changes for the sake of making changes. Oh, and {{ fact }} exists. If you need a citation, post the fact citation. ] 00:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC) | :::For example: removing the fruit table? The other Pac-articles have them. The reason is flippant. Removing the "!" in the Achievement box? They're there because the actual achievements use the exclamation points. If you want to condense the gameplay changes, fine, but some of that "reasoning" was making changes for the sake of making changes. Oh, and {{ fact }} exists. If you need a citation, post the fact citation. ] 00:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
| ::::Personally, I feel that the fruit table should be removed from ] as well. IMO, it doesn't belong in that article any more than it does here. The reason I haven't removed it, however, is because some of the people who've gotten after me about including too much game-guide material in other articles have a tendency to ardently defend its presence there. — ''']''' (]) — 00:36, 26 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Alright, since I'm being talked about here, let me put in my two cents: I do not vandalize articles. I explain in great detail (sometimes I have to cut down my explanations because the edit-summary line doesn't give me much room) what I'm doing with each edit and why I'm doing it. We are encouraged to '''be bold''' and make edits in good faith that we believe will help the overall article and the health of the wiki, as well as in adhering to WP policy. | |||
| That said, this round of edits that I made was in the interest of condensing the article to make it easier to read, relevant, and to cut down on items that constitute "game-guide" material. JAF, I'm a little surprised that you're getting after me about this, since you and I have sparred over game-guide material in the past and then have worked together to resolve issues like this in other articles. I'm no fan of the "no game-guide material" policy, but I'm trying to work in good faith to adhere to it since it is the currently adopted policy of WP. (I'm working on finding the specific policy link - I'll post it in a moment.) | |||
| I encourage discussion. Since I felt I was very clear on what I was doing and why, I didn't start a discussion on the edits - I just went ahead and made them. But that doesn't mean we can't discuss them. Feel free to start one, and we'll go from there. — ''']''' (]) — 00:36, 26 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Okay, finished the basic stuff for the page. Whew. JAF1970 19:18, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Nice work! Brjason 03:57, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Just about finished, but what are sparks?
Okay, I just about finished the page (with 2 contributions from SeanMooney), but what the heck are sparks and how do you get them? JAF1970 15:39, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- You hold the analog stick in the direction of the corner before you turn the corner of the maze, and it makes sparks come from Pac-Man. This slightly increases his speed, so you can use this to escape from ghosts that are right behind you. SeanMooney 22:48, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Iwatani's retirement
This article ought to mention that it was Toru Itawani's final game for Namco, and released right before he announced his retirement. Kouban 13:23, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- Done. It was mentioned in that Joystiq article as well. JAF1970 15:13, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Pear, Pineapple or Hand Grenade?
Look at the "pear". Is it officially a pear in text somewhere? It's kind of hard to tell. I still can't tell. JAF1970 16:26, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
- Are you referring to the green thing with the "handle" attached? That's actually a melon - this exact shape is used on MANY Japanese products (candies, sodas, etc) that feature melon flavoring. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:33, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Do not mass delete
Please do not mass delete entire sections of the article. That is considered vandalism. JAF1970 23:31, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- No, it isn't. KieferSkunk explained the removal in the edit summaries. According to Misplaced Pages:Vandalism: " significant content removals are usually not considered to be vandalism where a non-frivolous explanation for the removal of apparently legitimate content is provided, linked to, or referenced in an edit summary." See Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines#Scope of information for more information on what was referred to as "game-guide material". Dancter 00:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Wholesale deletions without real discussion is vandalism. JAF1970 00:24, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- For example: removing the fruit table? The other Pac-articles have them. The reason is flippant. Removing the "!" in the Achievement box? They're there because the actual achievements use the exclamation points. If you want to condense the gameplay changes, fine, but some of that "reasoning" was making changes for the sake of making changes. Oh, and exists. If you need a citation, post the fact citation. JAF1970 00:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Personally, I feel that the fruit table should be removed from Pac-Man as well. IMO, it doesn't belong in that article any more than it does here. The reason I haven't removed it, however, is because some of the people who've gotten after me about including too much game-guide material in other articles have a tendency to ardently defend its presence there. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 00:36, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- For example: removing the fruit table? The other Pac-articles have them. The reason is flippant. Removing the "!" in the Achievement box? They're there because the actual achievements use the exclamation points. If you want to condense the gameplay changes, fine, but some of that "reasoning" was making changes for the sake of making changes. Oh, and exists. If you need a citation, post the fact citation. JAF1970 00:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Wholesale deletions without real discussion is vandalism. JAF1970 00:24, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Alright, since I'm being talked about here, let me put in my two cents: I do not vandalize articles. I explain in great detail (sometimes I have to cut down my explanations because the edit-summary line doesn't give me much room) what I'm doing with each edit and why I'm doing it. We are encouraged to be bold and make edits in good faith that we believe will help the overall article and the health of the wiki, as well as in adhering to WP policy.
That said, this round of edits that I made was in the interest of condensing the article to make it easier to read, relevant, and to cut down on items that constitute "game-guide" material. JAF, I'm a little surprised that you're getting after me about this, since you and I have sparred over game-guide material in the past and then have worked together to resolve issues like this in other articles. I'm no fan of the "no game-guide material" policy, but I'm trying to work in good faith to adhere to it since it is the currently adopted policy of WP. (I'm working on finding the specific policy link - I'll post it in a moment.)
I encourage discussion. Since I felt I was very clear on what I was doing and why, I didn't start a discussion on the edits - I just went ahead and made them. But that doesn't mean we can't discuss them. Feel free to start one, and we'll go from there. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 00:36, 26 June 2007 (UTC)