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| I didn't want to write here anything at all, but some "smart" persons vandalized this page two times calling me "suspected sockpuppet", then they userpages disappeared quickly for unknown reason, so it seems to be nesessary to explain something here. I am not sockpuppet, understood? I will not describe all of my interests, just say that in present I am a resident of Ukraine and can describe myself like separatist, anarchist, sexist, and pagan, somebody can call me racist. That means I believe that human races exist, they differ greatly and blood is not water. If this is racism, OK then, I'm racist. But conversating with people I always looking at person first not at origin. Reading some articles here I became partly interested in Holocaust denial. Holocaust - related articles in Misplaced Pages unlike most articles here seem to be very biased against researchers, called by tabloids "Holocaust revisionists" or "Holocaust deniers". Reason of that bias, IMHO is that most admins of English Holocaust-related wikipedian sector are the members of the sect-like trollish group using Misplaced Pages to propagate their POV, they only imitate discussion (those are my impressions after conversations with them). That is very bad for the project, IMHO. Wikipedian Holocaust-related articles aren't even close to neutrality. Anyone can check my words. I've read some holocaust deniers'/revisionists' argumets and find some of them much more impressive then ones of official historians, who's arguments obviously sounds like "everybody know...". What can I say at that? Some commonly known things became suspiciously looking if you take closer look at them. | I didn't want to write here anything at all, but some "smart" persons vandalized this page two times calling me "suspected sockpuppet", then they userpages disappeared quickly for unknown reason, so it seems to be nesessary to explain something here. I am not sockpuppet, understood? I will not describe all of my interests, just say that in present I am a resident of Ukraine and can describe myself like separatist, anarchist, sexist, and pagan, somebody can call me racist. That means I believe that human races exist, they differ greatly and blood is not water. If this is racism, OK then, I'm racist. But conversating with people I always looking at person first not at origin. Reading some articles here I became partly interested in Holocaust denial. Holocaust - related articles in Misplaced Pages unlike most articles here seem to be very biased against researchers, called by tabloids "Holocaust revisionists" or "Holocaust deniers". Reason of that bias, IMHO is that most admins of English Holocaust-related wikipedian sector are the members of the sect-like trollish group using Misplaced Pages to propagate their POV, they only imitate discussion (those are my impressions after conversations with them). That is very bad for the project, IMHO. Wikipedian Holocaust-related articles aren't even close to neutrality. Anyone can check my words. I've read some holocaust deniers'/revisionists' argumets and find some of them much more impressive then ones of official historians, who's arguments obviously sounds like "everybody know...". What can I say at that? Some commonly known things became suspiciously looking if you take closer look at them. | ||
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| Hello, I see you are an admin here and have seen some of your userboxes (about personal attacks and systemic bias), so I think this page can be interesting to you because of it's (IMHO) long-period systemic bias against holocaust revisionists and multiple personal attacks (mainly by admins), absense of assuming good faith and so on. I was blocked then I called Squiddy a troll for reverting lots of my edits, despite he called me troll before more then once and wasn't blocked, so I understand it like carte-blanche for me to doing the same. Judje yourself, who are the trolls there - admins or me. I was surprised then aknowledged that actually nobody is allowed to edit this article except some admins. Even if they can't resist logic anymore, they revert my edit, then write it themselves and claim that they did it not me (http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Holocaust_denial/Archive_9#Night_and_Day). Holocaust revisionism ("denial") is not my only interest in Misplaced Pages, but most my edits are related to it mainly because of fierce and (IMHO) unfear resistence to any change in those articles. Now I go to appeal to the Arbitration committee to rule this matter. I think, this page have no chances to become neutral until Jpgordon, Stephan Shultz and Squiddy will be kicked out of Misplaced Pages. --] 16:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi Igor. i am really sorry. I am mediating 3 other issues for the meantime and working w/ other projects for now. All i can tell you is that you edit w/o consensus. If you think that is not correct than please leave a note at ] or contact someone of its members. ] is a very fair admin and you should listen to him and not argue about his judgment/opinion in a confrontational way. -- ] - <small>]</small> 18:03, 22 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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I didn't want to write here anything at all, but some "smart" persons vandalized this page two times calling me "suspected sockpuppet", then they userpages disappeared quickly for unknown reason, so it seems to be nesessary to explain something here. I am not sockpuppet, understood? I will not describe all of my interests, just say that in present I am a resident of Ukraine and can describe myself like separatist, anarchist, sexist, and pagan, somebody can call me racist. That means I believe that human races exist, they differ greatly and blood is not water. If this is racism, OK then, I'm racist. But conversating with people I always looking at person first not at origin. Reading some articles here I became partly interested in Holocaust denial. Holocaust - related articles in Misplaced Pages unlike most articles here seem to be very biased against researchers, called by tabloids "Holocaust revisionists" or "Holocaust deniers". Reason of that bias, IMHO is that most admins of English Holocaust-related wikipedian sector are the members of the sect-like trollish group using Misplaced Pages to propagate their POV, they only imitate discussion (those are my impressions after conversations with them). That is very bad for the project, IMHO. Wikipedian Holocaust-related articles aren't even close to neutrality. Anyone can check my words. I've read some holocaust deniers'/revisionists' argumets and find some of them much more impressive then ones of official historians, who's arguments obviously sounds like "everybody know...". What can I say at that? Some commonly known things became suspiciously looking if you take closer look at them.
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Hello, I see you are an admin here and have seen some of your userboxes (about personal attacks and systemic bias), so I think this page can be interesting to you because of it's (IMHO) long-period systemic bias against holocaust revisionists and multiple personal attacks (mainly by admins), absense of assuming good faith and so on. I was blocked then I called Squiddy a troll for reverting lots of my edits, despite he called me troll before more then once and wasn't blocked, so I understand it like carte-blanche for me to doing the same. Judje yourself, who are the trolls there - admins or me. I was surprised then aknowledged that actually nobody is allowed to edit this article except some admins. Even if they can't resist logic anymore, they revert my edit, then write it themselves and claim that they did it not me (http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Holocaust_denial/Archive_9#Night_and_Day). Holocaust revisionism ("denial") is not my only interest in Misplaced Pages, but most my edits are related to it mainly because of fierce and (IMHO) unfear resistence to any change in those articles. Now I go to appeal to the Arbitration committee to rule this matter. I think, this page have no chances to become neutral until Jpgordon, Stephan Shultz and Squiddy will be kicked out of Misplaced Pages. --Igor "the Otter" 16:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Igor. i am really sorry. I am mediating 3 other issues for the meantime and working w/ other projects for now. All i can tell you is that you edit w/o consensus. If you think that is not correct than please leave a note at WT:BIAS or contact someone of its members. User:Richardshusr is a very fair admin and you should listen to him and not argue about his judgment/opinion in a confrontational way. -- FayssalF - 18:03, 22 August 2007 (UTC)