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== Opinions of independent experts ==

I insist on using "many" independent experts, as opposed to "some" for following reasons:
:1) All independent esperts who so far did not hesitate to disclose their names (i.e. are risking their reputations to support their claim) are saying that Estonian government claims can not be confirmed.
:2) BBC's reference to "experts" in May 17 article most likely refers to individuals on Estonian government's or telecom's payroll. I do not question depth of their knowledge, but calling them "independent" would be the biggest shame since USSR called their elections "free".

As an alternative I can suggest writing something like "All independent expert commented on... could not confirm Estonian accusations. None of independent experts agreed with Estonian statements". That would be equally true, but much more POV. Do you guys want to go with statement like this? ] 20:26, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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Proposal to rename

This article may want to be renamed Estonian Cyberattack verses cyberwar. Cyberwar may seem to imply cyber attacks were exchanged instead of the incident being a one-sided attack. It should be noted a simple move is not possible since Estonian Cyberattack redirects to Estonian Cyberwarfare. MLWilson 22:56, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

It might be better to have a name showing that Estonia was attacked, not the one who did the attacking. Perhaps Cyberattacks to Estonia 2007 or something along those lines. Current name is too ambiguous. DLX 06:50, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. For now I am goind to move this page to Cyberattacks on Estonia 2007. MLWilson 06:24, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Some new sources

Sander Säde 19:05, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Opinions of independent experts

I insist on using "many" independent experts, as opposed to "some" for following reasons:

1) All independent esperts who so far did not hesitate to disclose their names (i.e. are risking their reputations to support their claim) are saying that Estonian government claims can not be confirmed.
2) BBC's reference to "experts" in May 17 article most likely refers to individuals on Estonian government's or telecom's payroll. I do not question depth of their knowledge, but calling them "independent" would be the biggest shame since USSR called their elections "free".

As an alternative I can suggest writing something like "All independent expert commented on... could not confirm Estonian accusations. None of independent experts agreed with Estonian statements". That would be equally true, but much more POV. Do you guys want to go with statement like this? RJ CG 20:26, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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