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I am not going to revert again on ]... I do not know enough about the issue and you do have a point although I think it needs some smoothing out. When you equate the ] to ] there is a problem. The context is very different ans the ] are a product of war and have a means of getting freedom through sex/children. Also, there is the implication of forced sex... which, it is not clear is allowed with ]... sex is permissible but slavery implies a certain amount of control and force. You cannot directly equate the two like that. A link to the article with further explanation is needed to make the issue clear and not leave the reader thinking something that is not true. There is a link between the two... but ] is complex and should be fully explained on its own page, not as an equation with sex slavery. ] 13:23, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) I am not going to revert again on ]... I do not know enough about the issue and you do have a point although I think it needs some smoothing out. When you equate the ] to ] there is a problem. The context is very different ans the ] are a product of war and have a means of getting freedom through sex/children. Also, there is the implication of forced sex... which, it is not clear is allowed with ]... sex is permissible but slavery implies a certain amount of control and force. You cannot directly equate the two like that. A link to the article with further explanation is needed to make the issue clear and not leave the reader thinking something that is not true. There is a link between the two... but ] is complex and should be fully explained on its own page, not as an equation with sex slavery. ] 13:23, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Gren, OK, I added a separate heading 'ma malakat amaynukum' as the concept is central in understanding sex slavery in islamic countries. :Gren, OK, I added a separate heading 'ma malakat amaynukum' as the concept is central in understanding sex slavery in islamic countries.
Hope this is alright. --] 14:01, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) Hope this is alright. --] 14:01, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Umm, how you did that I think still oversimplifies and gives a biased view to anyone who doesn't read the full article. For instance, "allowed to have sex with" -- there are different forms of allowance... in terms of Mahram I am ''allowed'' to marry someone not in my family, but that doesn't mean it will be allowed by them or will happen. Allowed (in terms of sex outside of marriage) can mean that the act is permissible, or it can be used to imply rape... that is a huge difference which is not fully explained in your little blurb. ] 23:48, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)


== Vandal == == Vandal ==

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Misuse of minor edits

Please be aware that you should not mark controversial edits such as reverts as minor edits. You should also comment all such edits clearly. Axon 17:15, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ma malakat aymanukum and Sex slavery

I am not going to revert again on Ma malakat aymanukum... I do not know enough about the issue and you do have a point although I think it needs some smoothing out. When you equate the ma malakat aymanukum to sex slavery there is a problem. The context is very different ans the ma malakat aymanukum are a product of war and have a means of getting freedom through sex/children. Also, there is the implication of forced sex... which, it is not clear is allowed with ma malakat aymanukum... sex is permissible but slavery implies a certain amount of control and force. You cannot directly equate the two like that. A link to the article with further explanation is needed to make the issue clear and not leave the reader thinking something that is not true. There is a link between the two... but ma malakat aymanukum is complex and should be fully explained on its own page, not as an equation with sex slavery. gren 13:23, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Gren, OK, I added a separate heading 'ma malakat amaynukum' as the concept is central in understanding sex slavery in islamic countries.

Hope this is alright. --Germen 14:01, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Umm, how you did that I think still oversimplifies and gives a biased view to anyone who doesn't read the full article. For instance, "allowed to have sex with" -- there are different forms of allowance... in terms of Mahram I am allowed to marry someone not in my family, but that doesn't mean it will be allowed by them or will happen. Allowed (in terms of sex outside of marriage) can mean that the act is permissible, or it can be used to imply rape... that is a huge difference which is not fully explained in your little blurb. gren 23:48, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Vandal

Reverting POV and undiscussed edits made by you does not constitute Vandalism. --Irishpunktom\ 14:48, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

3RR

Please be aware that Misplaced Pages has a rule called the Three-revert rule. The rule, essentially, maintains that a user can not make the same revert for the same article three times in 24 hours. This rule extends to parts of the same revert.

Don't revert any page more than three times within a period of 24 hours.
(This does not apply to self-reverts or correction of simple vandalism.)

Just make sure you are aware of it, so it does not sneak up on you. --Irishpunktom\ 15:06, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism/3RR

You keep using "vandalism" in edit summaries (and elsewhere) for things that are content disputes. Please read Misplaced Pages:Vandalism, and only use this term when it is appropriate.

Also, you have been reported for violating the 3RR (see above). Please do not violate the 3RR - you can (and will) be blocked from editing for violating it. Noel (talk) 20:44, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)