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| Ryan had said "you are banned indefinately from mentioning AMA on wiki again, that includes all namespaces, if you are to mention it once more, the indefinate block will be reinstated permanently." The problem with this ultimatum is that even though I want to do that. I know, at some point in time, there will be an opportunity, a lesson to explain to someone, etc. that it would be ideal or opportunitistic (for educational purposes and nothing to do, as you ademently keep insisting, in a trollish manner. The last I checked, trolling was something that was there for disruption. The only disruptions I've seen, in my view, where a couple disgruntled Admins that closed the AMA. Hey! Great for them! Now they don't have to deal with verbios comments which may contradict their logic. But trully, for everyone else who is not an admin and who put there word down in the MfD, all I noticed where comments to keep on going. Now, where are these people now, I don't know, I could assume maybe they where blocked? Or maybe they don't care anymore? The problem I see, is that process wasn't followed. Every step that was taken did not have, or you didn't show the community support. It wasn't until after the fact. So all that to say... You closed down AMA. I disagreed. I tried to continue working with the AMA. You blocked me indefinatelly. You then got the community concensus (after the fact). I still disagree. I'm still blocked. AMA is no longer active, and all the pages are prety much protected. So what more is there to say. I guess I'll have to make a sacrifice. :( It's trully a sad day, when something you believe in destroyed in what I considered a very unethical way. However, again, I can make that sacrifice. I wonder though, I remember Tom Harrisson saying something like, if I leave the AMA he would support it not beeing deleted. Humm... Actually, let's assume they do come back, maybe by that time I'll look back and say something like "Well, that was a hard sacrifice then but, really I think I can do without out it now!"... (nevertheless, I promise not to talk about the AMA, however I reserve the right, should it ever become re-institutionalized (by someone other than I) to talk about the subject on the appropriate page. | Ryan had said "you are banned indefinately from mentioning AMA on wiki again, that includes all namespaces, if you are to mention it once more, the indefinate block will be reinstated permanently." The problem with this ultimatum is that even though I want to do that. I know, at some point in time, there will be an opportunity, a lesson to explain to someone, etc. that it would be ideal or opportunitistic (for educational purposes and nothing to do, as you ademently keep insisting, in a trollish manner. The last I checked, trolling was something that was there for disruption. The only disruptions I've seen, in my view, where a couple disgruntled Admins that closed the AMA. Hey! Great for them! Now they don't have to deal with verbios comments which may contradict their logic. But trully, for everyone else who is not an admin and who put there word down in the MfD, all I noticed where comments to keep on going. Now, where are these people now, I don't know, I could assume maybe they where blocked? Or maybe they don't care anymore? The problem I see, is that process wasn't followed. Every step that was taken did not have, or you didn't show the community support. It wasn't until after the fact. So all that to say... You closed down AMA. I disagreed. I tried to continue working with the AMA. You blocked me indefinatelly. You then got the community concensus (after the fact). I still disagree. I'm still blocked. AMA is no longer active, and all the pages are prety much protected. So what more is there to say. I guess I'll have to make a sacrifice. :( It's trully a sad day, when something you believe in destroyed in what I considered a very unethical way. However, again, I can make that sacrifice. I wonder though, I remember Tom Harrisson saying something like, if I leave the AMA he would support it not beeing deleted. Humm... Actually, let's assume they do come back, maybe by that time I'll look back and say something like "Well, that was a hard sacrifice then but, really I think I can do without out it now!"... (nevertheless, I promise not to talk about the AMA, however I reserve the right, should it ever become re-institutionalized (by someone other than I) to talk about the subject on the appropriate page. | ||
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I think I need your help and support. I go an e mail from an editor asking me to look at the List_of_gay_porn_stars section. These articles are riddled with POV, advertisement and spam. I tried to do a simple prod tag but oh my did I get the thrashing of my life! These subjects are the actual editors of their pages. So, when an editor goes in to try and edit the articles, they jump on them and remove any edits they do not like. The way the WP:PORNBIO is written, all these people have to do is to win an award or be able to write something about themselves in a web page and it can be entered into WP. When you click on the links for these pages, they take you to websites that you either have to agree to enter in on adult content or it takes you to their porno stores. The only way to get around these people is to put them up for AfD. I need some help here. Do you think you would like to join forces with me to rid WP os some of this crap? Let me know. I certainly could use the support and help Junebug52 18:10, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- thanks Bug, but I can't help you until my block is resolved. --CyclePat 08:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- Which will be resolved once you agree to stop going on about the AMA per your community ban. Æon 19:24, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- If you notice, you, and a couple others, are the ones that keeps going on about AMA. In fact, in one of your previous comments you even mentioned Esperanza. Should you be blocked for trolling? This thing about banning me because I hold an opinion and express an opinion that most others disagree with seems a bit unsettling to me. Why not just ignore me? When I talk about this alleged obsession? Surely, it should be easy for an inteligent person like yourself to realize exactly what you are doing? I hope you, yourself can move on to something more productive eventually? Nevertheless, if you do wish to continue discussing this issue I'll be happy to do so via email. In the mean time, please feel free to explore and add smirky comments (trolling) to other user's talk pages. p.s.: Just one question, what is the need to put me under a threat of re-banning if I so much as mentions the subject again? Surelly, as you have shown with your Esperanza example, it is difficult to not talk about our history without talking about our past. What we had was a dissagreement... Obviously you supported the close of AMA and I didn't. At the time there was no community concensus and there was a lack of communication on your behalf. Partly because of this, and other reasons, such as the removal of perfectly legitimate conversation to improve the AMA, the closing of the AMA, as I saw it, was trolling on behalf of the ones that closed it. Nevertheless, I'm being labelled a troll. So if you say I do X and it's considered trolling then maybe it is. However, I fail to see what X is anymore? And why it may be considered trolling, given the fact that the AMA has been shut down? --CyclePat 21:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Concensus?
Ryan had said "you are banned indefinately from mentioning AMA on wiki again, that includes all namespaces, if you are to mention it once more, the indefinate block will be reinstated permanently." The problem with this ultimatum is that even though I want to do that. I know, at some point in time, there will be an opportunity, a lesson to explain to someone, etc. that it would be ideal or opportunitistic (for educational purposes and nothing to do, as you ademently keep insisting, in a trollish manner. The last I checked, trolling was something that was there for disruption. The only disruptions I've seen, in my view, where a couple disgruntled Admins that closed the AMA. Hey! Great for them! Now they don't have to deal with verbios comments which may contradict their logic. But trully, for everyone else who is not an admin and who put there word down in the MfD, all I noticed where comments to keep on going. Now, where are these people now, I don't know, I could assume maybe they where blocked? Or maybe they don't care anymore? The problem I see, is that process wasn't followed. Every step that was taken did not have, or you didn't show the community support. It wasn't until after the fact. So all that to say... You closed down AMA. I disagreed. I tried to continue working with the AMA. You blocked me indefinatelly. You then got the community concensus (after the fact). I still disagree. I'm still blocked. AMA is no longer active, and all the pages are prety much protected. So what more is there to say. I guess I'll have to make a sacrifice. :( It's trully a sad day, when something you believe in destroyed in what I considered a very unethical way. However, again, I can make that sacrifice. I wonder though, I remember Tom Harrisson saying something like, if I leave the AMA he would support it not beeing deleted. Humm... Actually, let's assume they do come back, maybe by that time I'll look back and say something like "Well, that was a hard sacrifice then but, really I think I can do without out it now!"... (nevertheless, I promise not to talk about the AMA, however I reserve the right, should it ever become re-institutionalized (by someone other than I) to talk about the subject on the appropriate page.
- Please bare with me whilst I take it to an admin board. Ryan Postlethwaite 22:04, 9 September 2007 (UTC)