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| :: ''(this moved here by ] from wrong section. Feel free to polish)'' Rubenstein is very deceitful. I was referring to those that did not include non-Jews in the Holocaust - not all Jews - as not caring about the non-Jews. Rubenstein has been very rude and disruptive. This is what he has written : *you....are a racist anti-Semite. But as you are a racist you are probably incapable of logical thought. At this point I see no reason to continue responding to a blatant anti-semite. --] 16:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::Rubenstein has already been personally very abusive and offensive. He has no shame. :*you....are a racist anti-Semite. But as you are a racist you are probably incapable of logical thought. At this point I see no reason to continue responding to a blatant anti-semite. The discussion is over. ] | ] 18:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC) | :::Rubenstein has already been personally very abusive and offensive. He has no shame. :*you....are a racist anti-Semite. But as you are a racist you are probably incapable of logical thought. At this point I see no reason to continue responding to a blatant anti-semite. The discussion is over. ] | ] 18:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
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anti-Semitic disruptive behavior Slrubenstein | Talk 15:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
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I would like to see the user blocked from the article; if he persists in anti-semitic attacks, I would like to see him banned Slrubenstein | Talk 15:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
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User:Salom Khalitun has engaged in a debate about the scope of the term "Holocaust" on The Holocaust, Talk:The Holocaust, and, by now, User Talk:Salom Khalitun. During the course of the debate he has repeatedly suggested that all opposing voices, whether by outside reliable sources or by other Misplaced Pages editors, are dishonest, "racists", and motivated by that sources "Jewishness".
Apart from the fact that these claims are classical ad-hominem attacks, they are in several cases factually wrong and always unsourced. They show a failure to assume good faith and constitute personal attacks and demonstrate a depressing level of anti-semitism.
This is just one example of this user's anti-Semitic rants. Superficially, the issue is the origina of the use of the word "Holocaust" to refer to Nazi attrocities. As the article makes clear, the use of the phrase "the Holocaust" was initially used as a translation of the Hebrew shoah to refer specifically to the Nazi's genocidal war against the Jews. The article also notes that the phrase has been expanded to refer to other nazi attrocities. But this user's real issue is that Jews do not care about the suffering of others, and that there is a conspiracy of Jewish scholars and editors to deny the suffering of others. As this is really irrelevant to the question of usage of one word, it is minimally disruptive behavior - but anti-Semitic distruptive behavior on the Holocaust talk page is especially offensive. I consider it a personal attack. Slrubenstein | Talk 15:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
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- (this moved here by Stephan Schulz from wrong section. Feel free to polish) Rubenstein is very deceitful. I was referring to those that did not include non-Jews in the Holocaust - not all Jews - as not caring about the non-Jews. Rubenstein has been very rude and disruptive. This is what he has written : *you....are a racist anti-Semite. But as you are a racist you are probably incapable of logical thought. At this point I see no reason to continue responding to a blatant anti-semite. --Salom Khalitun 16:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
- Rubenstein has already been personally very abusive and offensive. He has no shame. :*you....are a racist anti-Semite. But as you are a racist you are probably incapable of logical thought. At this point I see no reason to continue responding to a blatant anti-semite. The discussion is over. Slrubenstein | Talk 18:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
- Most of my friends are Jewish !!! --Salom Khalitun 15:58, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
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