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Ongoing discussions

Unblock request

Netmonger (talk · contribs) has requested an unblock but since I have no idea how you came to the conclusion of sockpuppetry, I can't answer it. Can you either direct me to the evidence or checkuser or point the unblock request out to someone who does know what is going on? Viridae 05:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Viridae. These are the conclusions and the math:
For further info please have a look at the ANI thread and the RFCU case. Thanks. -- FayssalF - 09:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Tourism in Sri Lanka

Fut, can you please comment on the article on its talk page. I wanted to have the here instead of the current version of the page. My reasons for the addition of extra text is to make the article more of a wikipedia article (encyclopedic with the addition of the paragraph). I added the fact tags because the claims are missing an RS backing them up. I understand that the citation needed tags are over done (per Haemo) and thus I agreed with a single tag on the top of the paragraph. However, I am still looking for an opinion on the inclusion/exclusion of the paragraph. I have asked for a RFC but no one seem interested. Watchdogb 13:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I really can't deal w/ content disputes and i'd just advise you not to edit war over an article which would provoke more problems. Please read my comment and those of Haemo and Perfect at the last thread at the ANI. Topic bans are on the air. Please avoid edit warring. -- FayssalF - 13:56, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Advice understood and taken. I have no intentions on engaging in edit war on this article and others and I am planning on talking rather than reverting. Thanks again. Watchdogb 14:12, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

War of the Spanish Succession

I have reverted your edits to the FTC of the War of the Spanish Succession as it has already been closed and failed. Just thought you should know my reasoning. Thanks. Woodym555 16:04, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Woody. -- FayssalF - 16:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

FayssalF,

I have seen that you have blocked some of the SL editors based on the similarities on their IP addresses. Well, Fayssal,I think you have heard many times about the DHCP and dynamic allocation of IPs. In SL the only ADSL provider is SL Telecom and they provide IPs dynamically. And even in the wikipedia, it says In current practice, an IP address is less likely to be an identifier, due to technologies such as:Dynamic assignment'. So even wikipedia says, IPs alone should not be used to identify users due to Dynamic allocation. Please take a look a netmonger and lahiruK, do you think they are the same ? Look at their contributions, time of edits,written style, they can never be the same. This is an unjust to SL based editors who are doing a very good work here. Please reconsider your decision, because even according to the wikipedia article, this should not be a reason to block editors. Thank you Iwazaki 02:20, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Iwazaki. I have no problem in having a Netmonger block review. We can even discuss this in an ANI thread to gather the community opinion on the issue of allocated portable though Chaser made it clear at Netmonger's talkpage.
Having said that, i believe Lahiru k's case is clear. The account had many abusive socks in the past and it is quite clear to me that User:Kaushini is Lahiru k. Anyway, it will be preferable to discuss all these issues at the ANI where we can have many opinions. Cheers. -- FayssalF - 14:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Fayssalf my good Moroccan friend ,Thank you very much for your comment.Could you please also take a look at this.This actually is a good proof how the IPs are dynamically allocated and how this alone should not be used to(as the wikipedia articile) identify the users. There are 32 Ips all,in less than 30 minutes!! Hope this would help to make justice to the blocked users.Regarding kaushini, she can never be Lahiru, I don't think lahiru would ever date himself ^_^ .Kaushini is in fact his GF(I know her personally) and goes to the same School ,hence they are using common school computers.So its very possible to have similar IP's.thank you Iwazaki 15:02, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
And here we are with girl friends' stories and disruption in Misplaced Pages. I am saying it again Iwazaki. Lahiru was lucky for not being indef a long time ago. Assuming that what you have just said about the GF story is true, i'd say that apart from sockpuppeting, now we got stories about gf disruptions. Call it meatpuppeting if you want... Again, i'd really appreciate we discuss these issues at the ANI so the final judgment would be that of the community and not that of me, Haemo, Fut Perfect or yours. I really won't unblock anyone for this moment based on the information we have till now. -- FayssalF - 15:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thanks for your comments, BUT I beg to differ from what you said of kaushini. She was a genuine wikipedian editor,just like any of us, and having gone through her contributions(not much though), I really don't see any disruptions by her(she was blocked not longer after she became an editor,so cant expect a lot from that short time). Anyway, As You correctly said, I am going to take my comments to the ANI, and let's hope we can discuss this there and do the justice to the blocked editors.Once again, thanks for the comments.Iwazaki 15:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

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For your contribution to My RfA, which passed with 8000 Supports, 2 Neutrals and no opposes.    

The standards and dedication of the English Wikipeidan Administrators is excellent and I am privileged to stand among them. Thankyou for putting you trust in me, I'll not see it abused. And now, I will dance naked around a fire. Party at my place! Cheers! Dfrg.msc 09:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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Another sock

See User_talk:Sumoeagle179#sock_puppets, I think it's another Lahiru_k sock. Pls investigate. Sumoeagle179 10:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

That's not a clear case. True that both usernames are too similar but it is not conclusive. You can add it to the RFCU case. -- FayssalF - 15:01, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Known sock

Pls check out my new listing at Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/Lahiru k (2nd), Arsath is definitely a sock too. Sumoeagle179 20:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Semi protection

Can you also semi-protect the Foreign relations of Turkey. --VartanM 02:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Arab

How is stating 100% of Saudi's citizen population Arab an OR statement? Chaldean 14:57, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Please restore only referenced edits. Misplaced Pages is about verifiability and not truth. -- FayssalF - 14:59, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
No problem. I will reference all of them. Chaldean 15:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Then we'll have no problem at all. Thanks. -- FayssalF - 15:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: User:Good friend100

I was under the impression that he was subject to a community-imposed revert parole, no? Kirill 15:06, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


Kenneth Lisenbee

Sorry to note your recent accident. I trust that you are recovering well.

See

opiumjones 23 16:41, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I saw it minutes ago at my watchlist. I'll have a look in depth probably tonight. -- FayssalF - 16:59, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Skatewalk is blocked

  • Hi, Fayssal, could you re-view this block of Skatewalk?

Other people have questioned the block, and it seems to have been a mistake. Funkynusayri 13:51, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Funky. Thanks for letting me know. I'll verify that and see what i can do. -- FayssalF - 14:27, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi again. I've had a look and i believe i agree w/ the block. The account was disruptive anyway and showed similar patterns of those of Serenesouldnyc. We don't need that behavior here. -- FayssalF - 18:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Email

You've got one! Ryan Postlethwaite 17:49, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah ;) i'm reading it now. I'll respond in a few minutes. -- FayssalF - 18:16, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

MILHIST for Sukarno

Hi FayssalF, I noticed you'd included Sukarno in the WP:MILHIST project. I'm not against the project, but do you think he is considered as a military personnel? Through his biography, he was an engineer turned into politicians and he never commanded military personnels in action, although as the head of a state he is officially the commander-in-chief of Indonesian army. But if the latter is the case then all Indonesian presidents must be included in the project. Just a thought. Cheers. — Indon (reply) — 07:44, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Indon. It is probably because i am more an inclusive user. I now read again the article in depth and believe that you are correct. I am reverting it back. Thanks for your note. -- FayssalF - 18:34, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you integrist? =

Its only a question, maybe its came be posible you are offence with this, but I very ofense with your words!!!!, you no are indepent politily, are thikn like Isqtal!!!! or same more integrist and nazionalist..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.31.164.233 (talk) 11:18, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

No offense. No i am not an integrist. I am just kind of politically independent and that does not mean that i am an independent politician. Therefore, i am not a nationalist. No politics. "but I very ofense with your words!!!!" Have i done or said anything which offended you? Please tell me what.
Pienso que eres hispanófono. No, no soy ni integrista ni nacionalista. Soy independiente politicamente y ademas no me preocupa mucho la politica aunque sè bastante como funciona. Te habia dicho algo malo? Por favor, dimelo. -- FayssalF - 19:01, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Merger proposed: Dance ethnology → Ethnomusicology

It has been proposed to merge the content of Dance ethnology into Ethnomusicology. Since you have previously edited one of these articles, I thought you might be interested. You're welcome to participate in the discussion if you like. --B. Wolterding 14:39, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

"Dance ethnology" and "ethnomusicology" are different things and notability can be easily proved though it is relatively new ethnic science in comparison w/ ethnomusicology . I believe there is much to say in Dance ethnology article. There's much to say about its scope in both a strict sense and a broader oen. Add to that its historical development and the contexts surrounding that. "Anthropology and the Dance: Ten Lectures" (ISBN 0-2520-7134-4), "Anthropological Perspectives of Movement" (ISBN 0-4050-6201-X) among other books can be useful for the article. I'd really give a chance to such an article to survive independently. -- FayssalF - 19:34, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Tag & Assess

Just a reminder that we're deleting article listings for military history files. (As you know, tne non-milhist ones are struck through.) This makes it easier for others to which see worklist articles have been processed and which need doing. All the best, --ROGER DAVIES  04:32, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Am i doing it right? -- FayssalF - 04:36, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Not quite :) You're leaving the milhist file listings in the worklist. They should be removed, leaving only struck through files. --ROGER DAVIES  04:43, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
i understand you are talking about the "via ROOT to Military to Military history to Military history...". Right? -- FayssalF - 04:55, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

(outdent) I'm talking about removing the milhist listings completely from the worklist, thus:

Before
  1. Hugh_VIII_of_Lusignan (talk) via ROOT to Military to Military_history to Warfare_by_era to Warfare_of_the_Medieval_era to Crusades to Crusade_people_(Christians)
  2. A-_(plane) (talk) via ROOT to Military to Military_organization to Types_of_military_forces to Military_aviation to Military_aircraft to Military_aircraft_by_type to Attack_aircraft to U.S._attack_aircraft
  3. .41_Rimfire_Cartridge (talk) via ROOT to Military to Military_equipment to Military_equipment_by_type to Weapons to Ammunition to Pistol_and_rifle_cartridges
  4. Imperial_Remnant (talk) via ROOT to Military to Military_organization to Fictional_military_organizations
After (listings 2 & 3 above are removed from the worklist because they're milhist)
  1. Hugh_VIII_of_Lusignan (talk) via ROOT to Military to Military_history to Warfare_by_era to Warfare_of_the_Medieval_era to Crusades to Crusade_people_(Christians)
  2. Imperial_Remnant (talk) via ROOT to Military to Military_organization to Fictional_military_organizations
--ROGER DAVIES  05:03, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Now it makes sense. Because i was wondering about the reason why i had to keep them there. Thanks for your help Roger. -- FayssalF - 05:08, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
My pleasure ... --ROGER DAVIES  05:11, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

(outdent) You might like to think about adding your total (in the participants list). It's getting impressive and is a good incentive for others :) --ROGER DAVIES  16:18, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Too late. You've done it! :))) --ROGER DAVIES  16:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Hahahha. I am going for 10,000. -- FayssalF - 16:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Good luck! Though at the rate you've been going, you'll easily do it by the end of next week :) --ROGER DAVIES  16:52, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
My fingers hurt Roger ;) -- FayssalF - 16:55, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Mine did too. I now have all the task forces in a notepad file and cut and paste them in. Now it's just my mouse finger that hurts:) --ROGER DAVIES  16:59, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Diff request

I will work on it on Sunday and Monday:((( also see this. Canada has over 100,000 Sri Lankans who showed up here with forged id's, it is a cottage industry there. Thanks Taprobanus 22:32, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Fayssal, could you please scroll down and see, forged passport business run by the LTTE part at the bottom!! So we have a clear proof that LTTE(and there supporters) forging passports, great. And most of the LTTE supporters are ended up in Canada., no wonder Canada ha a forged passport problem!! Coz, we don't c that kind of problem where ordinary Sri Lankans travel.
And fyssal(this is very important) the above user has been once accused by his friend of sharing passwords and using them for editing in wikipedia. If you need Diffs for this here we go,I shared the password with Raveen !! And the proof that the above user is here solely for POV pushing, also from the courtesy of his own friend, raveen is very angry I am not that strong enough defending Tamil issues]. So, here we have a classic case, some one who is making allegation has blatantly violated same things he said of others. Fyssal, could you also please take a IP check of all the raveens(User:Taprobanus) contributions to see whether they are in fact made by him ? He is based in Canada, and if we have edits from other country IPs, then we have a clear cut issue of sharing passwords. Also, could you please take a look at this user User:Wikramadithya IPs and do a comparison with User:Taprobanus, coz I have strong evidences that these are the same user. Or ,should I file a check user case ? Because evidence that User:Wikramadithya and User:Taprobanus aka raveen , are the same person is overwhelming. This is a real serious matter and hope you would look into this immediately.Thank you . Iwazaki 02:33, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
I have no CheckUser tool. I suggest you file a CU case and we'll see what to do. -- FayssalF - 02:38, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. You mean , I should file two CU cases ?? One for sock puppeting and one for sharing passwords ? Because, for sharing password I have given a strong evidence courtesy of his own friend !!! I have put it here, because this user has accused others(no evidence) while he him self had breached it before(we have evidences). You have asked for the diffs and I have given one here. So If you can take any action,I think you should. If you want me to bring this case to a certain place I would be glad to do it. Thanks.Iwazaki 02:57, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
CheckUser cases accepts "evidence" showing accounts being shared. You don't have to open a new case but as i verify this i see that he also accused Netmonger for asking for his password. Do you have a link to that CU case? -- FayssalF - 03:16, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
User:Rajkumar Kanagasingam has clearly stated at one point that he couldn’t grasp what is happening to his account
After he had evidence that his e-mail passwords were tried to be stolen , he requested checkuser to identify the anon user / users on the postings
A checkuser for those postings will greatly support the purity of the wikipedia.Lighttaker 03:42, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. I've just mentioned that at the ANI and asked Iwazaki to update the CheckUser w/ this info. I am blocking you as you are an obvious sock. Of whom i don't care. -- FayssalF - 03:53, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, he accused a lot of people for hacking into is account, didn't he ? But, what important is before he accused anyone he wrote at netmongers talk page that he shared Pass words with raveen, didn't he? And why would he do that ? This due, a proper check, considering they went to the same school and very good friends. Fyssal, You have asked me to update this, but where ? Iwazaki 04:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
I should file two CU cases ?? I thought there's already one. File it then and let admins verify that. -- FayssalF - 04:24, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
I ll bring it and let you know. Thanks for your advice. Iwazaki 04:27, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

BLP violations

Can you look into Haroon Siddiqui article it seems to be coming under BLP violations based on non reputable sources. Thanks Taprobanus 13:14, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

It is not systematic and you have already reverted. If that persists try to mention WP:BLP at the talk page. If that goes further, please refer to Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard for prompt response. -- FayssalF - 13:20, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
This is a serial problem see , I will take it up with the appropriate forum. Thanks Taprobanus 13:36, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Admin coaching

Will you please coach me? I have been looking for a coach for a while. If you don't want to, it's okay. Æetlr Creejl 00:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Sure. Do you want to work on a per case basis (assisting) or something like more formal (theoretical)? -- FayssalF - 01:58, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand what you mean. Æetlr Creejl 02:02, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Would you like practicing by assisting and advising me (cases i am working on) or would you like to make it more formal like going through explaining policies and guidelines. It depends on your level of understanding adminship and your experience in wikipedia. -- FayssalF - 02:09, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Footnotes?

Hey FayssalF I just read your suggestions about using footnotes to shorten my point. I obviously know what the definition of a footnote is and everything, but I was wondering if you meant a special wiki-feature or something that I have never used or heard about. If that is what it is, can you explain it to me? Also is it something I should be embarrassed for not knowing about after two years on wikipedia :) ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg (talkcontribs) 07:17, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

No, we are talking about the same thing. Nothing new. Except that it worked before and i don't see any problem in using it per Misplaced Pages:Footnotes. It states that " are useful for material that would be distracting if included in the main text, yet is helpful in explaining a point in greater detail." -- FayssalF - 17:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Review thread

Re . I wouldn't bother blocking if I were you. Let him turn his anger wheels for a while and wear himself out. The evidence is strong. Objective observers see that. There's little use continuing to argue with a partisan who will never be convinced, but blocking him may be counterproductive.--chaser - t 07:43, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Instead of blocking him i'd rather not answer him. He's clearly being disruptive and "more a Pope than the Pope himself" and this attitude against me has been noted since months now. But for the sake of ending this drama, i won't block him unless he doesn't take it seriously. -- FayssalF - 07:54, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Netmonger Thrash talking at other editors

Hi FayssalF, I wanted to bring attention to Netmonger/lahiru_k account. He is using one section of his talk page to trash talk editors who wrote up stuff on the SPP case against him . This is just continued harassment I have gotten from this user both on and off wikipedia. Please help. Sinhala freedom 20:56, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Please do not bother yourselves to get into that. The situation is already getting worse and we are trying to do our best. Just forget about their talk pages unless you are mentioned at the ANI. Thanks. -- FayssalF - 15:07, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Much obliged!

Thanks for your speedy assistance! --Kralizec! (talk) 12:01, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for you as well for bringing it there. -- FayssalF - 12:03, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
When I ran into the issue, I was surprised no one else had taken it to WP:SSP, especially since another editor had said as much weeks ago. --Kralizec! (talk) 12:07, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Simply because obvious cases don't need to be reported there. You can contact any admin (especially the admin who blocked the sock master) w/o filing a case. Also because The problem is that the SSP is so backlogged and w/ the increasing volume of cases, admin actions takes a bit longer to be executed. -- FayssalF - 12:12, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the additional info. Next time (and after reading the previous SSP cases, I have little doubt there will be a next time) I will skip straight to an admin. Thanks again! --Kralizec! (talk) 13:47, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Next time and i know it will happen again bring it to. I was the admin who dealt w/ Mariam83 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) since the begining by blocking the sock master account and all of her/his socks. No worries about that. -- FayssalF - 13:50, 23 October 2007 (UTC)