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Identity
I am in fact Matt Sanchez. Matthew.a.sanchez@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluemarine (talk • contribs) 07:13, March 26, 2007 (UTC)
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Editing an article about yourself
There seems to be some indication that you are in fact Matt Sanchez. If so, please review and follow Misplaced Pages's policies on editing one's own biography and on conflict of interest. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 16:38, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- The two problematical items you mentioned on my talk page aren't in the article anymore, so hopefully they are no longer an issue. As you know, it's pretty much impossible to keep inaccuracies out of an article; the best that can be hoped for is that they are promptly removed. (In that regard, I just removed a category, in the article, related to one of the two items you mentioned.)
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Just want to add to what John Broughton said--I'm really trying to work on getting this article NPOV, and the insertion of unrelated images and unsourced anecdotes are just making it harder (not to mention probably inviting more anonymous attack edits). I happen to think there is no need for this article at all; that it was tossed up as a blogosphere-directed hit, but as long as it's here I want to make it as fair as is possible. FYI, John Broughton is extremely fair and isn't part of the groups inserting weasel words and libelous statements. Seriously, take his advice. :) --Beth C. 20:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Matt, first I think words such as 'escorts' are giving you the benefit of the doubt to begin with: maybe nothing more than a full-body massage happens in exchange for $300/hour. However, I find it strange that in articles you allegedly wrote and said "I'm not denying it" and "it happened over ten years ago" that you would turn around and now deny it completely, conveneniently as a "don't ask, don't tell" military investigation has opened up. For someone who has courted controversy, this about-face when the wind changes direction is quite stunning.→ R Young {łtalk} 05:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Lovingly referred to as Refer Mechs, Marines claim the jack of all trades combat engineers have the most important job in the Corps: Keeping the beer
- Matt Sanchez was known for being especially muscular. His fellow Marines asked him to move a refrigeration unit without a crane. Rumor has it, that he did just that. There are also reports that his arms (19") did not fit well into his Marine camies and that the sleeves needed to be tailored to accommodate his girth.
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March 2007
Please do not delete content from articles on Misplaced Pages, as you did to Matt Sanchez. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Real96 06:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Misplaced Pages, as you did to Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject LGBT studies, you will be blocked from editing. WjBscribe 23:24, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Neutrality
There's no neutrality here. The bloggers are breaking their own rules. I added a different interview with Kevin McCullough. You have not been at all neutral. The LGBT community wishes to publicly assassinate me, and you insist that I have no neutrality.
I suggest we post the longer, more thorough Kevin McCullough advertisement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluemarine (talk • contribs) 07:08, March 28, 2007 (UTC)
Name-Calling
Jihadist because people have issued a fatwa because gay men, like yourself, who have a personal bias against me because you feel threatened by someone who doesn't agree with you.
My face is everywhere online. 00:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)Matt Sanchez
Matt,
Why do you insist on calling everyone a name ('jihadists,' 'these fags') that you don't agree with? First, I wouldn't be surprised if you were 'straight' but that would make you 'gay-for-pay' which means you performed gay acts for money...i.e. 'prostitution.' You said yourself that 'pornography is prostitution' which by YOUR definition makes you a (fill in the blank).
Notably, you call people 'faceless cowards' when in fact their faces appear online. Hmmm. You complain of bias but you break every rule to push an agenda which is itself biased, contorted, distorted, and totally unsupportable. I think you must be enjoying the attention. If so, keep it up.→ R Young {łtalk} 04:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
LGBT and some of the other homo bloggers have been extremely biased. I'm sure you've noticed their bias. Bluemarine 23:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC)Matt Sanchez
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DYK info like that doesn't go on the article page. Plus, that info needs to be sourced. Further, unless you are an admin, you shouldn't add the protected templates. Please stop adding this to the article. MECU≈talk 14:16, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
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Hi. Please do not use your talk page (this page here) as a draft space for your articles. It is needed for others to communicate with you. You have unlimited draft space in your user space; just create pages like User:Bluemarine/My New Article. Sandstein 18:21, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- Please read your messages! You are disrupting this talk page by posting the article about you on it. If you want to experiment with it, please to this somewhere else in your user space! Sandstein 18:48, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
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— superbfc — 18:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)Ridiculous, if anything I have been far too blatant. I've never once denied my identity. Who are you?Matt Sanchez 03:28, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
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Perhaps if you didn't spend your time gay-baiting, people would have more sympathy for you. From your posts here, you clearly have a lot to learn about politics. Aatombomb 01:47, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Attombomb you're such a cowardly effete. Matthew Sanchez 03:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
- Matt, you should read WP:Civil. People can be blocked for comments like the one's you're making on the Talk page of your article.Wjhonson 03:10, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
- Matt, I second this comment by Wjhonson. Please watch the personal attacks. I understand how this is a complicated issue, to say the least, but personal attacks are not tolerated, from anyone. --JoanneB 03:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Joanne, please check the myriad comments that WhJohnson is making toward me. Matt Sanchez 04:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
- Matt, even so, please stay civil yourself. Others can be warned and eventually blocked for incivility and personal attacks as well, but you'll need to be more specific than to point to his contributions in general. Kind regards, --JoanneB 04:29, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Another nameless oneMatthew Sanchez 03:24, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Who are you and why aren't you signing off?Matthew Sanchez 03:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
You need to read the vandals who keep reposting on the entry on me. Matthew Sanchez 03:22, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
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I see from your recent actions that you are unhappy with coverage about you on Misplaced Pages at Matt Sanchez. We take very seriously any comments from the subjects of articles that their content are untrue or not presented neutrally. Having looked at the article, I can see why you are concerned. I would like to discuss the contents of the article with you and the others involved so that a mutually agreed version can be reached. Int he meantime please do not edit war over the article.
I see you are keeping a draft of the article below, I am going to move it for you to User:Bluemarine/Sandbox, a dedicated page where you can edit it. This will allow this page to be used just for messages to you... WjBscribe 04:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
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WP:AUTO
Matt, per WP:AUTO, may I please strongly advise that you avoid editing your bio at Matt Sanchez? The better way to handle this is to edit your sandbox version and then ask for those changes to be rolled in to the main bio. Thanks, Elonka 00:56, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
OOOPPPSSS
sorry, but I couldn't access my sandbox Matt Sanchez 01:10, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
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Matt is compiling a history of being vindictive and angry. His comments on articles he's edited including his own prove that. I think he should be banned from Misplaced Pages until he can contribute in a civil and respectful way. If this behavior continues I will go to the editors of Misplaced Pages to see what they can do. Fair warning.
All trolls are requested to sign their normally anonymous postings. Thank you Matt Sanchez 05:45, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- I most likely disagree with much about Matt Sanchez' politics, but I think it is nonsense to try and ban him for editing an article about him. That would be Orwellian: we have made an article about you that includes what you think is derogatory information, and we are banning you from fixing it. The suggestions that he not edit the article himself but edit his sandbox version and ask others to place it in to the article are understandable, meant well, but also nonsense. Let's just make it difficult for the actual person to edit articles about themselves while making it easy for unidentified people and people we know nothing about to edit freely. 71.39.78.68 14:15, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
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Throttle down the personal attacks. Regardless of your personal history with some of the other editors, calling them "screwed up fags" and "disgusting sodomites" is NOT acceptable. Another editor just came off of an involuntary wikibreak due to incivility; if you don't calm down, you'll be doing the same. Horologium t-c 01:45, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
- It's not the first time either. He personally attacked me too on several occasions. Aatombomb 03:58, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
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Could you confirm whether this account is yours? WjBscribe 16:21, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
User identifying as Blue Marine and Matt Sanchez
I don't have proof that you are or aren't Matt Sanchez but your pervasive and prolific posting on multiple topics are disruptive and that you are the subject of the article easily borders on violating WP protocols. Please read up on Misplaced Pages:Autobiography and Misplaced Pages:Disruptive editing. Please note: I'm not accusing you of either of these but I believe your voluminous comments on the talk pages fly in the face of the policies and do violate the spirit of cooperation needed to produce good articles.
- I suggest that you
1. "chill" and when you do repost keep it civil and productive. If another editor(s) are adding unverified statements or information supported only by blogosphere rumors it will be deleted. It might not happen immediately but there are a lot of folks watching the page so it should happen rather soon. 2. Focus instead on adding the material you think is missing and should be included. Providing the weblink directly to the source and it's easy enough for someone else to start to sort it out. 3. Work on some other articles. Biographies of living people are notoriously back and forth processes that take time. You may have noticed that I have yet to make a big edit on yours since I haven't had the time to read through everything that's already happened and I've been working on other articles. You can do the same, although you're a near-expert on yourself you could easily contribute to other articles just as well. Benjiboi 20:21, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- It's kind of funny that you were editing the article for Scott Thomas Beauchamp under a pseudonym. You were intimately involved with the controversy, you have a clear opinion, and you were adding your own website as a reference. Because you used the name Bluemarine I did not realize what you were doing. Using blog references is not permitted, and it seems even more egregious that you were linking to your own blog. A headline by Bluemarine (you) states that the Omission of Matt Sanchez is astounding, but because you didn't want others to realize that you were promoting yourself, you used the third person. Next time you promote yourself on wikipedia (an obvious show of bias), perhaps you should know what you're getting into and not be so "astounded" when it's removed.Athene cunicularia 13:53, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
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More personal attacks
Please stop your personal attacks. They are unwarranted and violate WP policies. You have called me a "gay porn groupie" and "homosexual with an ax to grind" adding "There's nothing "balanced and neutral" about this guy." In addition you collectively called the article editors "catty gay men" and "sodomites." If you are unable to constructively and peacefully participate in the talk pages processes avoiding disruptive behavior and personal attacks then you should put your energies into other articles of interest to you. Benjiboi 21:05, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Enough
Our policies against personal attacks are not optional. I am extremely loathed to prevent someone about whom we have an article from editing this website, but if you continue in these attacks you will leave me no choice. There is absolutely no need for you to comment on other contributors, your speculations about people's sexual orientation or pornographic preference are out of line. Consider this the last warning you will receive, another personal attack and you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages for a period of time - you can make representations about your article via email if that happens. WjBscribe 21:17, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- I concur with WJBscribe. On the one hand, I very much want Sanchez to be able to continue to participate at the talkpage of his own bio. On the other, Sanchez has engaged in multiple personal attacks and sexual slurs. Numerous requests, both on- and off-wiki, have been made to Sanchez to cease with this behavior, and yet he continues. If it happens again, I would support a block. --Elonka 21:42, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- I also agree. This has gone far enough. I will support a block the next time someone's sexual orientation is made an issue. Horologium t-c 22:19, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Is there some part of don't comment on contributors you aren't getting? WjBscribe 12:18, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
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Persistence
This page is crammed with clashes! I salute your noble aims. DMCer 03:14, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
You asked
You wanted me back, you got me back. Aatombomb 00:41, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
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Corrected
As last time, I have moved your draft of the article about you to a subpage (you can find it at User:Bluemarine/Draft) so this page can continue to be used by those wishing to contact you. WjBscribe 12:02, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
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Editing your own biography on Misplaced Pages isn't biased? Aatombomb 03:32, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
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A Request
If you wish to engage in dialogue, please do so on my talk page and not on my user page. Furthermore, I would appreciate it if you would stop referring to me as a 'gay activist.' I have never engaged in any form of activism for gay causes. Aatombomb 23:58, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
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- The reason for the Request for Comment is set out in the RFC summary here. Your input would be appreciated.Typing monkey 18:14, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
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Once again, however provoked you feel, personal attacks such as those made in this post are unacceptebale. Comment on content, not other contributors. WjBscribe 21:31, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Spamming
Spamming the Talk:Matt Sanchez page isn't going to help you settle anything. Aatombomb 04:41, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
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Bear in mind that there's nothing partisan about this offer. I just happen to have walked a few (nautical) miles in the similar moccasins and I hope there's a friendly way to straighten things out. I'll probably recuse myself from actual use of sysop tools regarding this conflict, but I may request review and intervention by uninvolved administrators if that becomes necessary. My hope is that perhaps that won't be necessary and the parties can settle the issues amicably. Durova 01:05, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
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It's More Complicated Than You Think
Hi Matt,
Yes I realize that controversy for you drives book sales. Great. "Taliban of Tolerance." I couldn't care less, so long as the other side gets equal time to share their views.
Just for your information...I'm a Republican who voted for Bush...three times (1992, 2000, 2004). What I care about is factual accuracy. I admired you at first for admitting the truth...because until we can admit the truth, we cannot be free. However, I see that after the forces that be (i.e. the military's 'don't ask, don't tell' policy) came around---forces that favor the telling of lies, forces that expect Larry Craig to remain in anonymous public restrooms, well then the story line changed. I am an historian and there's nothing worse to an historian to re-write history to make it less honest in order to pander to certain groups...right, left, or anywhere in between.
And no, I never bought any of your videos. Sorry! Ryoung122 09:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Indefinite block
Per Misplaced Pages:No legal threats for this edit. Durova 03:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Is it clear from that edit that he is making a legal threat to a user? If its clear based on other information, then Bluemarine isn't his only username. Avruch 14:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)