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User:Dbromage
- Suspected sockpuppeteer
Dbromage (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Suspected sockpuppets
Thin Arthur (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
The Null Device (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Report submission by
Tezza1 16:48, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Evidence
User Dbromage, suspected sockpuppetry, voting fraud, COI and self awarding of Barnstar. I have listed my concerns here and on the COI notice board as I believe there has been abuse and COI. User:Dbromage behavior warrants an investigation. If my allegations are judged to have basis, it goes a long way in explaining the editing warring, sock/meat puppetry, and general un-civility, which has occurred in Railpage article over the past year. Having entered into a good faith discussion with a editor who admits a COI with the Railpage article (see 3-4th November 2007) , I've finally become sick and tired of this user Dbromage and his sock and meat puppets. User:Dbromage I suspect is using multiple sock puppets Thin Arthur, The Null Device and possibly two other IP addresses (see end) to edit, vote and discuss changes to the Railpage article and many other articles (refer evidence) here at Misplaced Pages.
Reading the Railpage article the name Dbromage seems to match as the subjects founder - David Bromage.
I’m particularly disturbed that the user has awarded himself and an Administrator a Barnstar using his Thin Arthur sockpuppet (a first on Misplaced Pages?).
The user has also given false and misleading information to an Administrator User:Durova in order to conceal his identity.
This user has used the Thin Arthur and Null Device sock puppets and has not disclosed his conflict of interest when discussing Railpage article content.
User:Dbromage would have a difficult case against ignorance of COI guidelines as he has advised others on the issue using the Thin Arthur sock puppet.
And I consider the be the more serious, voting against its deletion and making comments against the articles deletion. Afd #2, Afd #3, Afd #4.
The user has also attempted to take action against myself when there is disputed content on numerous occasions without disclosing his/her conflict of interest in the Railpage article.
I also suspect that the user is also responsible for meat puppetry using names such as FailpageMustGo, “DFC free Oz” and “Fundie Busters” using throw away IP addresses in a deliberate attempt to stymie debate and discredit any further nominations for the article’s deletion. Look at the timing of the nomination of Afd #4, user:The Null Device and 59.167.77.190.
If these allegations are proven, how will it affect the status of the Railpage Article? as Dbromage through his sock puppets have heavily edited the article. See 23rd July 2007
- Sock puppet evidence
Please look at this; I consider Thin Arthur and 150.203.56.19 to be the same. IP 150.203.56.19 seems to be an in adverted error of not logging into Misplaced Pages by user:Dbromage.
If you agree then, please consider this Revision history of Deborah Lawrie
The article was created by Dbromage and then was amazingly edited on the same day by 150.203.56.19. It would be shear stroke of luck that another user with as much knowledge on a remote subject would stumble over it within a matter of hours, and providing finishing references to Dbromage edits. True, there is a two-hour break between edits. It looks as though the same editor is at work.
Please refer to the following link where one user corrects the other. Again, it looks as though the same editor is at work
If your are still unsure, there is more evidence linking 150.203.56.19 to User:Thin Arthur. These are just a few, there are some more in no particular order which I’ve put on my talk page. If you fancy yourself as a Wikisleuth, you can start here
Edits made within minutes
Evidence linking Thin Arthur, 150.203.56.19 to Dbromage
- 20 min gap List_of_notable_rail_transport_modellers - Thin Arthur was rather fortunate having those references on hand!!
- Bilevel_car
- 10 min gap Fred_Smith
Some other examples;
Thin Arthur supporting Dbromage’s vote in an Afd - there are more on my talk page
Thin Arthur, edits Dbromage's contribution.
Now look at user Thin Arthur’s edits with The Null device
Null Device and Dbromage
It seems to me the same user editing in the same manner, circumstantial evidence, maybe, but based on the link between Dbromage and Thin Arthur it is surely enough to warrant a check user request against The Null Device.
Based on the above evidence I believe it would be worthwhile the following user names for check user.
And based upon the edit made here & , and user who admitted to having these IP addresses, but was reluctant to disclose his user name to Administrator
Thank you.Tezza1 16:48, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Comments
- Tezza, I used to work with David until he changed jobs a few months ago. 150.203.56.19 is a proxy used by a large number of people. To be honest you seriously need to get a life and give up this lone jihad against Railpage. Thin Arthur 07:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- It would be quite a coincidence that TWO like minded users are employed by that organization sitting side by side playing tag team editing at the same time and on the same articles and Afd's. If you are a different person, you have been consulting with user:Dbromage in making changes to articles and Afd's to achieve the same outcome (Did he ask you for the Barnstar?). RegardsTezza1 08:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- I should not be dignifying these contemptuous accusations with a response, but I will play by Misplaced Pages's rules. Yes, we have similar interests. No, we did not sit side by side. No, I did not consult with anybody in contributing to AfDs. I am quite capable of making my own decisions. No, he did not ask me for the Barnstar. You conveniently forgot to mention that I also gave a Barnstar to another editor who I considered to have made an exceptional contribution to the same article. Or was that fact too inconvenient in trying to gather evidence that supported your pre-conceived conclusion? I consider these accusations to be harassment. Thin Arthur 08:51, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Response; I have already mentioned that you awarded the same Barnstar to Administrator Gnangarra. That user is not suspected of being a sock puppet, you are. Tezza1 10:04, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- You came to a conclusion then tried to find evidence that supported it. I am not a sockpuppet and neither is The Null Device. We are all real people who used to work together and had similar interests. Why not try applying Occam's Razor to your conspiracy theories and accept that you are in a minority of one? In case you hadn't noticed, the alleged puppetmaster is no longer involved with the subject of the article and has not been for a long time. Your disruptive editing of the article was unsuccessful so now you are going after the editors in an attempt to get the banned. Do you really have nothing better to do than continue this lone jihad? This accusation of sockpuppetry is vexatious, just like all the other COI/vanity/etc complaints you made when your POV edits failed to stick. Thin Arthur 10:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Response; Calm down, let's wait for an outcome. If your have nothing to fear then you have nothing to worry about. For the record, user Dbromage has become active in the last hour or two on his talk page, deleting my message. That user account has been inactive for over a month. Tezza1 12:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- User:Thin Arthur may post from 150.203.56.8 -- Jreferee t/c 14:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- User:Thin Arthur may post from 150.203.56.19 -- Jreferee t/c 14:35, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- Conclusions