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User Dbromage, suspected sockpuppetry, voting fraud, COI and self awarding of Barnstar. I have listed my concerns here and on the COI notice board as I believe there has been abuse and COI. ] behavior warrants an investigation. If my allegations are judged to have basis, it goes a long way in explaining the editing warring, sock/meat puppetry, and general un-civility, which has occurred in Railpage article over the past year. Having entered into a good faith discussion with a editor who admits a COI with the Railpage article (see 3-4th November 2007) , I've finally become sick and tired of this user ] and his sock and meat puppets. ] I suspect is using multiple sock puppets ], ] and possibly two other IP addresses (see end) to edit, vote and discuss changes to the ] article and many other articles (refer evidence) here at Misplaced Pages. '''Sock/Meatpuppet Cooperation''' - User Dbromage, suspected sockpuppetry, voting fraud, COI and self awarding of Barnstar. I have listed my concerns here and on the COI notice board as I believe there has been abuse and COI. ] behavior warrants an investigation. If my allegations are judged to have basis, it goes a long way in explaining the editing warring, sock/meat puppetry, and general un-civility, which has occurred in Railpage article over the past year. Having entered into a good faith discussion with a editor who admits a COI with the Railpage article (see 3-4th November 2007) , I've finally become sick and tired of this user ] and his sock and meat puppets. ] I suspect is using multiple sock puppets ], ] and possibly two other IP addresses (see end) to edit, vote and discuss changes to the ] article and many other articles (refer evidence) here at Misplaced Pages. Reading the ] article the name ] seems to match as the subjects founder - David Bromage. I’m particularly disturbed that the user has awarded himself and an Administrator a ] using his ] sockpuppet (a first on Misplaced Pages?). The user has also given false and misleading information to an Administrator ] in order to conceal his identity. This user has used the Thin Arthur and Null Device sock puppets and has not disclosed his conflict of interest when discussing Railpage article content. ] would have a difficult case against ignorance of COI guidelines as he has advised others on the issue using the Thin Arthur sock puppet. And I consider the be the more serious, voting against its deletion and making comments against the articles deletion. , , . The user has also attempted to take action against myself when there is disputed content on numerous occasions without disclosing his/her conflict of interest in the Railpage article. I also suspect that the user is also responsible for meat puppetry using names such as , “DFC free Oz” and “Fundie Busters” using throw away IP addresses in a deliberate attempt to stymie debate and discredit any further nominations for the article’s deletion. Look at the timing of the nomination of Afd , ] and ]. If these allegations are proven, how will it affect the status of the Railpage Article? as ] through his sock puppets have heavily edited the article. See 23rd July 2007


⚫ *'''Sock puppet evidence by Tezza1'''
Reading the ] article the name ] seems to match as the subjects founder - David Bromage.


I’m particularly disturbed that the user has awarded himself and an Administrator a ] using his ] sockpuppet (a first on Misplaced Pages?). Please look at this; I consider ] and ] to be the same. IP 150.203.56.19 seems to be an in adverted error of not logging into Misplaced Pages by user:Dbromage.

The user has also given false and misleading information to an Administrator ] in order to conceal his identity.

This user has used the Thin Arthur and Null Device sock puppets and has not disclosed his conflict of interest when discussing Railpage article content.

] would have a difficult case against ignorance of COI guidelines as he has advised others on the issue using the Thin Arthur sock puppet.

And I consider the be the more serious, voting against its deletion and making comments against the articles deletion. , , .

The user has also attempted to take action against myself when there is disputed content on numerous occasions without disclosing his/her conflict of interest in the Railpage article.

I also suspect that the user is also responsible for meat puppetry using names such as , “DFC free Oz” and “Fundie Busters” using throw away IP addresses in a deliberate attempt to stymie debate and discredit any further nominations for the article’s deletion. Look at the timing of the nomination of Afd , ] and ].

If these allegations are proven, how will it affect the status of the Railpage Article? as ] through his sock puppets have heavily edited the article. See 23rd July 2007

⚫ *;Sock puppet evidence

Please look at this; I consider ] and ] to be the same. IP 150.203.56.19 seems to be an in adverted error of not logging into Misplaced Pages by user:Dbromage.


If you agree then, please consider this If you agree then, please consider this


The article was created by ] and then was amazingly edited on the same day by ]. It would be shear stroke of luck that another user with as much knowledge on a remote subject would stumble over it within a matter of hours, and providing finishing references to ] edits. True, there is a two-hour break between edits. It looks as though the same editor is at work. The article was created by ] and then was amazingly edited on the same day by ]. It would be shear stroke of luck that another user with as much knowledge on a remote subject would stumble over it within a matter of hours, and providing finishing references to ] edits. True, there is a two-hour break between edits. It looks as though the same editor is at work.


Please refer to the following link where one user corrects the other. Again, it looks as though the same editor is at work Please refer to the following link where one user corrects the other. Again, it looks as though the same editor is at work
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Evidence linking ], ] to ] Evidence linking ], ] to ]
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Thank you.] 16:48, 5 November 2007 (UTC) Thank you.] 16:48, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

*'''Dbromage as The Null Device''' -- ]]/] 20:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
:*The Null Device had a ] that did not include Dbromage.
:*'''General''' - Dbromage and The Null Device have never posted at the same time. Dbromage has never posted between two of The Null Device's adjacent posts. The Null Device posting sessions have never been at the same time as Dbromage's posting sessions, often are on different days, and often on similar topics. For example, '''(1)''' Dbromage stopped positing on March 1, 2007 at Talk:Railpage Australia, The Null Device started posted on March 2, 2007 and stopped posting on March 3, 2007, specifically stopping after posting at Railpage Australia AfD. Dbromage then started posting again on March 6, 2007. '''(2)''' Dbromage stopped positing on March 9, 2007 at Talk:Rail transport modelling, The Null Device started posted on March 12, 2007 and stopped posting on March 12, 2007 at Talk:Railpage Australia. Dbromage then started posting again on March 13, 2007. '''(3)''' Dbromage stopped positing on May 9, 2007, The Null Device started posted on May 27, 2007 and stopped posting on May 27, 2007 at Hush (song) after revising the images‎. Dbromage then started posting again on May 28, 2007 at Hush (song) to revise the images. '''(4)''' Dbromage stopped positing at 07:05 July 23, 2007 at Articles for deletion. The Null Device started posting thirty minutes later at Articles for deletion and stopped posting on May 27, 2007. Dbromage then started posting again on July 31, 2007. '''(5)''' Dbromage stopped positing at August 2, 2007. The Null Device started posting eight hours later and stopped posting an hour after than. Dbromage then started posting again on August 3, 2007, four hours after The Null Device stopped. '''(6)''' Dbromage stopped positing at 06:37 6 August 2007. The Null Device started posting four hours later and stopped posting an hour after than. Dbromage then started posting again on August 7, 2007.
:*'''Common pages''' The Null Device and Dbromage both have posted at significantly different topics such as '''(1)''' ], '''(2)''' ], '''(3)''' ], '''(4)''' ], '''(5)''' ], '''(6)''' ], '''(7)''' ], and '''(8)''' On March 2, 2007, The Null Device move Scott McGregor to ] to account for the subsequent March 2, 2007 creation of ].
:*'''Cooperation''' '''(1)''' In May 2007, The Null Device uploaded ] and the now deleted ] and ] on 27 May 2007. Twelve days later on 8 June 2007 Dbromage responded to BetacommandBot's post on The Null Device's talk page by posting a fair use for all three images.,. '''(2)''' On August 1, 2007, The Null Device triple tagged the now deleted ] article with notability, Blpdispute, and unreferenced. Two days later, on August 3, 2007, Dbromage tagged the page with copyvio, resulting in the deletion of Shelly Horton.

*'''Dbromage/The Null Device and Thin Arthur as meatpuppets''' -- ]]/] 20:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
:*Thin Arthur had a ] that did not include Dbromage or The Null Device. Of the many names checked at that RfC, Thin Arthur was the only one to have "(Legit user?)" posted next to it.
:*'''General''' - Thin Arthur made a post at 06:10, 30 August 2007 and Dbromage made a post at 06:10, 30 August 2007.

:*'''Common pages and cooperation''' <u>] and ] have contributed to the following topics:</u> '''(1)''' Railpage Australia; '''(2)''' List of rail transport modellers; '''(3)''' List of railfans‎; '''(4)''' Rail transport modelling; '''(5)''' Talk:Railpage Australia; '''(6)''' Iain Campbell Smith; '''(7)''' Scott McGregor (television presenter); '''(8)''' Victorian general election, 2010. <u>] and ] have largely supported each other in the following AfDs:</u> '''(9)''' 1970s fads and trends in North America AfD; '''(10)''' 1980s fads and trends in North America AfD; '''(11)''' 1990s fads and trends‎ AfD; '''(12)''' 1990s fads and trends in Japan AfD; '''(13)''' 1990s fads and trends in North America AfD; '''(14)''' 2000s fads and trends AfD; '''(15)''' 2000s fads and trends in North America AfD; '''(16)''' Cheese & onion AfD; '''(17)''' Climate change in popular culture‎ AfD; '''(18)''' Independent University of Australia AfD; '''(19)''' List of chemical compounds with unusual names (2nd nomination) AfD; '''(20)''' List of colleges and universities named after people AfD; '''(21)''' List of entertainers related to academics AfD; '''(22)''' List of foods with a low glycemic index AfD; '''(23)''' List of songs deemed inappropriate by Clear Channel following the 09 September 11, 2001 attacks (2nd nomination)‎ AfD; '''(24)''' List of volcanoes in Republic of Macedonia AfD; '''(25)''' Planet killer AfD; '''(26)''' Political change (2nd nomination) AfD; '''(27)''' Shaheedur Rahman AfD; '''(28)''' Spells in Harry Potter (3rd nomination) AfD; '''(29)''' Star Trek versus Star Wars (4th nomination) AfD; '''(30)''' Stonehenge in popular culture AfD; '''(31)''' Victorian general election, 2010 AfD; '''(32)''' War against Iran AfD. <u>], ] and ] have each posted on the following pages:</u> '''(34)''' Railpage Australia; '''(35)''' Talk:Railpage Australia. <u>] and ] have both posted on the following pages:</u> '''(36)''' Railpage Australia; '''(37)''' Scott McGregor‎. On March 2, 2007, The Null Device move Scott McGregor to ] to allow Thin Arthur to create ] on March 2, 2007. '''(38)''' Talk:Railpage Australia; '''(39)''' Railpage Australia AfDs.


;Comments ;Comments
*Tezza, I used to work with David until he changed jobs a few months ago. 150.203.56.19 is a proxy used by a large number of people. To be honest you seriously need to get a life and give up this lone jihad against Railpage. ] 07:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC) *Tezza, I used to work with David until he changed jobs a few months ago. 150.203.56.19 is a proxy used by a large number of people. To be honest you seriously need to get a life and give up this lone jihad against Railpage. ] 07:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:*It would be quite a coincidence that TWO like minded users are employed by that organization sitting side by side playing tag team editing at the same time and on the same articles and Afd's. If you are a different person, you have been consulting with ] in making changes to articles and Afd's to achieve the same outcome (Did he ask you for the Barnstar?). Regards] 08:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC) :*It would be quite a coincidence that TWO like minded users are employed by that organization sitting side by side playing tag team editing at the same time and on the same articles and Afd's. If you are a different person, you have been consulting with ] in making changes to articles and Afd's to achieve the same outcome (Did he ask you for the Barnstar?). Regards] 08:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::*I should not be dignifying these contemptuous accusations with a response, but I will play by Misplaced Pages's rules. Yes, we have similar interests. No, we did not sit side by side. No, I did not consult with anybody in contributing to AfDs. I am quite capable of making my own decisions. No, he did not ask me for the Barnstar. You conveniently forgot to mention that I also gave a Barnstar to another editor who I considered to have made an exceptional contribution to the same article. Or was that fact too inconvenient in trying to gather evidence that supported your pre-conceived conclusion? I consider these accusations to be harassment. ] 08:51, 6 November 2007 (UTC) ::*I should not be dignifying these contemptuous accusations with a response, but I will play by Misplaced Pages's rules. Yes, we have similar interests. No, we did not sit side by side. No, I did not consult with anybody in contributing to AfDs. I am quite capable of making my own decisions. No, he did not ask me for the Barnstar. You conveniently forgot to mention that I also gave a Barnstar to another editor who I considered to have made an exceptional contribution to the same article. Or was that fact too inconvenient in trying to gather evidence that supported your pre-conceived conclusion? I consider these accusations to be harassment. ] 08:51, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:::*Response; I have already mentioned that you awarded the same Barnstar to Administrator Gnangarra. That user is not suspected of being a sock puppet, you are. ] 10:04, 6 November 2007 (UTC) :::*Response; I have already mentioned that you awarded the same Barnstar to Administrator Gnangarra. That user is not suspected of being a sock puppet, you are. ] 10:04, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::::*Response; Calm down, let's wait for an outcome. If your have nothing to fear then you have nothing to worry about. For the record, user ] has become active in the last hour or two on his talk page, deleting my message. That user account has been inactive for over a month. ] 12:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC) :::::*Response; Calm down, let's wait for an outcome. If your have nothing to fear then you have nothing to worry about. For the record, user ] has become active in the last hour or two on his talk page, deleting my message. That user account has been inactive for over a month. ] 12:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


* ] may post from ] -- ]]/] 14:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC) * ] may have posted from ] -- ]]/] 14:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
* ] may post from ] -- ]]/] 14:35, 7 November 2007 (UTC) * ] may have posted from ] -- ]]/] 14:35, 7 November 2007 (UTC)


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User:Dbromage

Suspected sockpuppeteer

Dbromage (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

Thin Arthur (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
The Null Device (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)


Report submission by

Tezza1 16:48, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Evidence

Sock/Meatpuppet Cooperation - User Dbromage, suspected sockpuppetry, voting fraud, COI and self awarding of Barnstar. I have listed my concerns here and on the COI notice board as I believe there has been abuse and COI. User:Dbromage behavior warrants an investigation. If my allegations are judged to have basis, it goes a long way in explaining the editing warring, sock/meat puppetry, and general un-civility, which has occurred in Railpage article over the past year. Having entered into a good faith discussion with a editor who admits a COI with the Railpage article (see 3-4th November 2007) , I've finally become sick and tired of this user Dbromage and his sock and meat puppets. User:Dbromage I suspect is using multiple sock puppets Thin Arthur, The Null Device and possibly two other IP addresses (see end) to edit, vote and discuss changes to the Railpage article and many other articles (refer evidence) here at Misplaced Pages. Reading the Railpage article the name Dbromage seems to match as the subjects founder - David Bromage. I’m particularly disturbed that the user has awarded himself and an Administrator a Barnstar using his Thin Arthur sockpuppet (a first on Misplaced Pages?). The user has also given false and misleading information to an Administrator User:Durova in order to conceal his identity. This user has used the Thin Arthur and Null Device sock puppets and has not disclosed his conflict of interest when discussing Railpage article content. User:Dbromage would have a difficult case against ignorance of COI guidelines as he has advised others on the issue using the Thin Arthur sock puppet. And I consider the be the more serious, voting against its deletion and making comments against the articles deletion. Afd #2, Afd #3, Afd #4. The user has also attempted to take action against myself when there is disputed content on numerous occasions without disclosing his/her conflict of interest in the Railpage article. I also suspect that the user is also responsible for meat puppetry using names such as FailpageMustGo, “DFC free Oz” and “Fundie Busters” using throw away IP addresses in a deliberate attempt to stymie debate and discredit any further nominations for the article’s deletion. Look at the timing of the nomination of Afd #4, user:The Null Device and 59.167.77.190. If these allegations are proven, how will it affect the status of the Railpage Article? as Dbromage through his sock puppets have heavily edited the article. See 23rd July 2007

  • Sock puppet evidence by Tezza1

Please look at this; I consider Thin Arthur and 150.203.56.19 to be the same. IP 150.203.56.19 seems to be an in adverted error of not logging into Misplaced Pages by user:Dbromage.

If you agree then, please consider this Revision history of Deborah Lawrie

The article was created by Dbromage and then was amazingly edited on the same day by 150.203.56.19. It would be shear stroke of luck that another user with as much knowledge on a remote subject would stumble over it within a matter of hours, and providing finishing references to Dbromage edits. True, there is a two-hour break between edits. It looks as though the same editor is at work.

Please refer to the following link where one user corrects the other. Again, it looks as though the same editor is at work

If your are still unsure, there is more evidence linking 150.203.56.19 to User:Thin Arthur. These are just a few, there are some more in no particular order which I’ve put on my talk page. If you fancy yourself as a Wikisleuth, you can start here

Edits made within minutes

Evidence linking Thin Arthur, 150.203.56.19 to Dbromage

Some other examples;

Thin Arthur supporting Dbromage’s vote in an Afd - there are more on my talk page

Thin Arthur, edits Dbromage's contribution.

Now look at user Thin Arthur’s edits with The Null device

Null Device and Dbromage

It seems to me the same user editing in the same manner, circumstantial evidence, maybe, but based on the link between Dbromage and Thin Arthur it is surely enough to warrant a check user request against The Null Device.

Based on the above evidence I believe it would be worthwhile the following user names for check user.

And based upon the edit made here & , and user who admitted to having these IP addresses, but was reluctant to disclose his user name to Administrator

Thank you.Tezza1 16:48, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

  • The Null Device had a prior Check User case brought against The Null Device that did not include Dbromage.
  • General - Dbromage and The Null Device have never posted at the same time. Dbromage has never posted between two of The Null Device's adjacent posts. The Null Device posting sessions have never been at the same time as Dbromage's posting sessions, often are on different days, and often on similar topics. For example, (1) Dbromage stopped positing on March 1, 2007 at Talk:Railpage Australia, The Null Device started posted on March 2, 2007 and stopped posting on March 3, 2007, specifically stopping after posting at Railpage Australia AfD. Dbromage then started posting again on March 6, 2007. (2) Dbromage stopped positing on March 9, 2007 at Talk:Rail transport modelling, The Null Device started posted on March 12, 2007 and stopped posting on March 12, 2007 at Talk:Railpage Australia. Dbromage then started posting again on March 13, 2007. (3) Dbromage stopped positing on May 9, 2007, The Null Device started posted on May 27, 2007 and stopped posting on May 27, 2007 at Hush (song) after revising the images‎. Dbromage then started posting again on May 28, 2007 at Hush (song) to revise the images. (4) Dbromage stopped positing at 07:05 July 23, 2007 at Articles for deletion. The Null Device started posting thirty minutes later at Articles for deletion and stopped posting on May 27, 2007. Dbromage then started posting again on July 31, 2007. (5) Dbromage stopped positing at August 2, 2007. The Null Device started posting eight hours later and stopped posting an hour after than. Dbromage then started posting again on August 3, 2007, four hours after The Null Device stopped. (6) Dbromage stopped positing at 06:37 6 August 2007. The Null Device started posting four hours later and stopped posting an hour after than. Dbromage then started posting again on August 7, 2007.
  • Common pages The Null Device and Dbromage both have posted at significantly different topics such as (1) Hush (song), (2) Image:Somebody's Image Hush.jpg, (3) Railpage Australia‎, (4) Talk:Hush (song), (5) Image:Giuliano Girardi Hush.jpg, (6) Image:I Colours Hush.jpg, (7) Talk:Railpage Australia, and (8) On March 2, 2007, The Null Device move Scott McGregor to Scott McGregor (baseball player) to account for the subsequent March 2, 2007 creation of .
  • Cooperation (1) In May 2007, The Null Device uploaded Image:Somebody's Image Hush.jpg and the now deleted Image:Giuliano Girardi Hush.jpg and Image:I Colours Hush.jpg on 27 May 2007. Twelve days later on 8 June 2007 Dbromage responded to BetacommandBot's post on The Null Device's talk page by posting a fair use for all three images.,. (2) On August 1, 2007, The Null Device triple tagged the now deleted Shelly Horton article with notability, Blpdispute, and unreferenced. Two days later, on August 3, 2007, Dbromage tagged the page with copyvio, resulting in the deletion of Shelly Horton.
  • Thin Arthur had a prior Check User case brought against Thin Arthur that did not include Dbromage or The Null Device. Of the many names checked at that RfC, Thin Arthur was the only one to have "(Legit user?)" posted next to it.
  • General - Thin Arthur made a post at 06:10, 30 August 2007 and Dbromage made a post at 06:10, 30 August 2007.
  • Common pages and cooperation Dbromage and Thin Arthur have contributed to the following topics: (1) Railpage Australia; (2) List of rail transport modellers; (3) List of railfans‎; (4) Rail transport modelling; (5) Talk:Railpage Australia; (6) Iain Campbell Smith; (7) Scott McGregor (television presenter); (8) Victorian general election, 2010. Dbromage and Thin Arthur have largely supported each other in the following AfDs: (9) 1970s fads and trends in North America AfD; (10) 1980s fads and trends in North America AfD; (11) 1990s fads and trends‎ AfD; (12) 1990s fads and trends in Japan AfD; (13) 1990s fads and trends in North America AfD; (14) 2000s fads and trends AfD; (15) 2000s fads and trends in North America AfD; (16) Cheese & onion AfD; (17) Climate change in popular culture‎ AfD; (18) Independent University of Australia AfD; (19) List of chemical compounds with unusual names (2nd nomination) AfD; (20) List of colleges and universities named after people AfD; (21) List of entertainers related to academics AfD; (22) List of foods with a low glycemic index AfD; (23) List of songs deemed inappropriate by Clear Channel following the 09 September 11, 2001 attacks (2nd nomination)‎ AfD; (24) List of volcanoes in Republic of Macedonia AfD; (25) Planet killer AfD; (26) Political change (2nd nomination) AfD; (27) Shaheedur Rahman AfD; (28) Spells in Harry Potter (3rd nomination) AfD; (29) Star Trek versus Star Wars (4th nomination) AfD; (30) Stonehenge in popular culture AfD; (31) Victorian general election, 2010 AfD; (32) War against Iran AfD. Dbromage, Thin Arthur and The Null Device have each posted on the following pages: (34) Railpage Australia; (35) Talk:Railpage Australia. Thin Arthur and The Null Device have both posted on the following pages: (36) Railpage Australia; (37) Scott McGregor‎. On March 2, 2007, The Null Device move Scott McGregor to Scott McGregor (baseball player) to allow Thin Arthur to create Scott McGregor (television presenter) on March 2, 2007. (38) Talk:Railpage Australia; (39) Railpage Australia AfDs.
Comments
  • Tezza, I used to work with David until he changed jobs a few months ago. 150.203.56.19 is a proxy used by a large number of people. To be honest you seriously need to get a life and give up this lone jihad against Railpage. Thin Arthur 07:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
  • It would be quite a coincidence that TWO like minded users are employed by that organization sitting side by side playing tag team editing at the same time and on the same articles and Afd's. If you are a different person, you have been consulting with user:Dbromage in making changes to articles and Afd's to achieve the same outcome (Did he ask you for the Barnstar?). RegardsTezza1 08:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
  • I should not be dignifying these contemptuous accusations with a response, but I will play by Misplaced Pages's rules. Yes, we have similar interests. No, we did not sit side by side. No, I did not consult with anybody in contributing to AfDs. I am quite capable of making my own decisions. No, he did not ask me for the Barnstar. You conveniently forgot to mention that I also gave a Barnstar to another editor who I considered to have made an exceptional contribution to the same article. Or was that fact too inconvenient in trying to gather evidence that supported your pre-conceived conclusion? I consider these accusations to be harassment. Thin Arthur 08:51, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Response; I have already mentioned that you awarded the same Barnstar to Administrator Gnangarra. That user is not suspected of being a sock puppet, you are. Tezza1 10:04, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
  • You came to a conclusion then tried to find evidence that supported it. I am not a sockpuppet and neither is The Null Device. We are all real people who used to work together and had similar interests. Why not try applying Occam's Razor to your conspiracy theories and accept that you are in a minority of one? In case you hadn't noticed, the alleged puppetmaster is no longer involved with the subject of the article and has not been for a long time. Your disruptive editing of the article was unsuccessful so now you are going after the editors in an attempt to get the banned. Do you really have nothing better to do than continue this lone jihad? This accusation of sockpuppetry is vexatious, just like all the other COI/vanity/etc complaints you made when your POV edits failed to stick. Thin Arthur 10:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Response; Calm down, let's wait for an outcome. If your have nothing to fear then you have nothing to worry about. For the record, user Dbromage has become active in the last hour or two on his talk page, deleting my message. That user account has been inactive for over a month. Tezza1 12:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Conclusions