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I've blocked you for 24 hours for general disruption. You've been edit warring at ] and to top it off, you've made nasty personal attack such as . When you return, please act my appropriately with your fellow contributors. ] 21:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC) I've blocked you for 24 hours for general disruption. You've been edit warring at ] and to top it off, you've made nasty personal attack such as . When you return, please act my appropriately with your fellow contributors. ] 21:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
:I concur with Ryan Postlethwaites action and comments, but would further require you '''not''' to refer to fellow contributors by a name that <u>they</u> find offensive. ] 21:58, 8 November 2007 (UTC) :I concur with Ryan Postlethwaites action and comments, but would further require you '''not''' to refer to fellow contributors by a name that <u>they</u> find offensive. ] 21:58, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

==Thank You==
Thank you all for Blocking me from editing wiki ..
it would have een much etter if neutral editors would have also read my concerns on ] Talk page and the history of that article it self tell all .
i agree that i could not control me due to disruptive editing by mezzo specially by removing of Times online complete Report which was there for more than 2 months .so i thanks all to be agree on Blocking me .
] <sup>(] • ])</sup> 21:31, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

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My self shabiha im a traditionalist Sunni Student . I believe in Peace ful Propagation of religion . As im Muslim so i follow Sufism . Im warsi sunni and belivesin more liberal form of Propagation .

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Deleting content is not always vandalism

Deleting Muhammad picture is not vandalism. When the content is disputed then adding them is as bad as deleting them. However, we should concentrate on solving this problem in better way. Please help me in improving Including Muhammad Pictures Against wiki-policies so that we can file an arbitration case. --- A. L. M. 21:20, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

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Regarding the words of Ibn Qayim

Salamun alaykom. We have a discussion regarding the correct translation and the actual meaning of something written by Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya. We might need an opinion from some native arabic speakers in order to reach consensus. If this caught your interest, feel free to join our discussion at Talk:Hadith of Sabra reporting on the prohibition of Mut'ah. Thank you. Hamid-Masri 11:36, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Stop

Please stop disrupting the Deobandi article. Although the scholars from Darul uloom disagreed on various points with Imam Ahmed Raza Khan, they were serious about their faith and followed Tariqas. The Salafis had some commonalities with them on some matters of Tawassul and that's why the Saudis sponsored many of their Madrassas. Wassalam. --Nkv 15:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Mufti Taqi Uthmani is a prominent Deobandi Scholar today. Here's what his bio says. . He's a Sufi. The Darul Uloom site itself attests to their acceptance of Sufism. . You're edits are partisan, wrong and disruptive. --Nkv 17:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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What are you doing moving my Userpage to Aliyah Stevens? Please use a sandbox for experiments and don't alter my userpage. Thanks. --Nkv 14:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Kanzul Iman

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How to revert

Assalamoalaikum I wish to ask that Can I Remove the Prophet's(S.A.W) Picture from that section NOW.

  • How can I revert the Matter.
  • How can I Create Multi pages Article.

Shabiha 09:12, 19 May 2007 (UTC)Shabiha

For the pictures I will try to find arbitration and working on User:ALM scientist/image dispute. When we are right then we will succeed. If we fail even then no worries because at least we tried our best. :)
Multi-page article? Article supposed to have only one page. It might give links to other pages that are other articles. To create new article just write it name in search box on the left hand side. For example I write there Shabiha. If the article already exist you will get it otherwise it will give link to create the article. Remember to create only article which add value to encyclopedia, otherwise your article will be deleted.
To revert: You could use popups Misplaced Pages:Tools/Navigation_popups. However, I do not use them and I simply see article hitory and compare current version with older version. Then I click on the older version and save it. Revert when it is necessary, otherwise go to talk page. Tell others what you wish to do and then make a change. Keep other people with you by posting on the talk. Wassalam. --- A. L. M. 19:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Debate

Assalamu alaikum Shabiha. From your edits of late, I get the idea that you have a dangerously anti Deobandi stance. Regardless of what Misplaced Pages says or becomes, you should take care of your Iman. I'd recommend that you take a look at this article by Shaykh Nuh Keller (who is a Sufi and a Shaykh of the Shahdilli Tariqa current living in Jordan). It discusses the divide between these two great schools of Islamic thought in India. Please read through it carefully and May Allah keep you on the Sirat-e-mustaqim . Wassalam. --Nkv 07:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Email

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hai frd

my name shabbir ahmmad frm india my profession computer oprator and apllicationerso my id address num shabbir_kadr786@yahoo.co.in thanking u very much reply ur id and ur mobile num —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.2.213.131 (talk) 07:58, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Deobandi

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Islamic views of Muhammad

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Kanzul Iman

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Kanzul Iman

Plz iscuss it with me on Talk Page as it MostImportant Dcuument of Barelwi Movement. Like Other Translations it has also right to be There.Hope u will resolve the Matter. User:Shabiha 12:17, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

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FA

Salam,

I'd be interested in know which 7 featured articles you have contributed to significantly?Vice regent 17:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

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Sufism

Wa `alaykum as-salām. Sure I am interested in contributing to any topic related to Sufism. I have a number of resources, books etc, and specifically I can provide references/sources to articles. However most of my time is spent on wikibooks and I my contribution here can be complementary at best.--Shahab 01:54, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

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Re: TaajuSh Shariah Hadrat Allama Mufti Mohammed Akhtar Raza Khan Azhari Al-Qaadiri

Hi Shabiha,

Thanks for your message regarding TaajuSh Shariah Hadrat Allama Mufti Mohammed Akhtar Raza Khan Azhari Al-Qaadiri. I'm going to see if I can't explain to you a little bit why I tagged it for deletion and some of the problems that I see with it.

First, I should tell you that the article has not been nominated as an article for deletion, and as such you don't need to defend it on the talk page. Rather, it has been proposed for deletion, which means that it will automatically be deleted five days from when I proposed its deletion unless you remove the tag at the top of the article. You can do this at any time, and doing so will mean that your article is no longer proposed for deletion.

However, I have to tell you that the problems I see are severe enough that, if you remove the tag without addressing them, I will nominate the article for deletion, which will involve several days of discussion and end in a binding consensus. The problems I see are as follows:

  1. The article does not cite any reliable sources.
  2. The article is not written from a neutral point of view.
    • This is probably the most severe of the problems with the article. You must remember that Misplaced Pages is meant to be written for all audiences, not just Muslims. As such, the usage of terms like "illustrious", "tender age", "his eminence", etc. are improper here. The articles on Muhammad and Moses avoid the usage of such terms.
  1. The article does not properly establish the notability of its subject, only making the unsupported claim that he is a great scholar in the Islamic world.

I hope this helps a bit in understanding why this article has been tagged. I've added some other tags to the article in an effort to attract the attention of other editors who may be able to help you fix it. If you have any other questions, please feel free to let me know. --jonny-mt(t)(c) 01:31, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Reply from Barelvi Scholar

Wa alaikum assalam. I can't tell much about myself except that I am a Certified Islamic Scholar, an ardent follower of the teachings of AlaHazrat and have devoted my life to safeguard the sanctity of the Holy Prophets and the Holy Saints against those who try to undermine their high status esp. the wahhabis, deobandis, shiites, qadyanis(ahmadis), jamat e islami, nadwis, Ahle hadith, Ahle Quran (chikralvi)etc. --Barelvi Scholar 17:42, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

imp

kindly send me ur email id --Barelvi Scholar 17:50, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Mawlid

Hi Shabiha, thank you for your note on my talk page. I have noticed that there seems to be an edit war going on in this article and would like to help you all to reach consensus. See you on the talk page. → AA09:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi again. Please comment on my proposal for the restructuring of the article. Thanks. → AA18:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


I have asked MezzeoMezzo to respect a 0RR approach on this article and would like to request the same of you too. What it means is that we do not revert any changes but rather if we disagree on something, we take it to the talk page and get the other's response before taking any further action. This will be much more productive for the article. TIA. → AA15:12, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Replied. → AA09:43, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
  • I note you've added Hasan to the list but have not added any references. Is it meant to be attributed to the existing reference (Britannica)? → AA15:12, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Shabiha, I got involved in this article at your request and have tried to assist both you and MezzoMezzo to work constructively to build the article. I have asked both of you to respect a 0RR approach and discuss changes. I have to note that MezzoMezzo has abided by this but will ask you again to discuss changes and not revert. You should also take some time to read the Manual of Style (including WP:MOSISLAM) as changes you make should adhere to those and other relevant policies (WP:NPOV, WP:NOT). I am not sure what your objection is to the restructuring which is intended to prevent the article from simply becoming a list of opinions but to provided reasoned arguments and rebuttals. No one is going to use Misplaced Pages as evidence to start celebrating Mawlid or stop celebrating it if they already do so and seeing it in this light is not going to help us build a neutral article. I am happy to discuss any issues you have in the talk pages (or via email). → AA20:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


Your signature

Hi Shabiha,

Not sure if you know this but if you can add a signature via your Preferences which will make it easier to identify your comments in the talk pages. You need to click the "Raw signature" button and add something like the following into the Signature box:

] <sup>(] • ])</sup>

Cheers, → AA22:30, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: comments on my talk page

If you have an issue with my edits, please discuss it on the article's talk page. Insults directed at me are trolling and are not welcome.
You are free to have your own opinions, but please stop calling me derogatory terms such as "wahabi" or "fascist", especially on my talk page. MezzoMezzo 20:37, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Shabiha, be mindful of our policies on WP:CIVIL & WP:NPA. Your comments are clearly meant as an attack and any further violations are likely to result in a block. I would request that you do not use the term "Wahabi" to refer to any editor on Misplaced Pages. → AA21:17, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

November 2007

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Barelwi. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. → AA21:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

I've blocked you for 24 hours for general disruption. You've been edit warring at Barelwi and to top it off, you've made nasty personal attack such as this. When you return, please act my appropriately with your fellow contributors. Ryan Postlethwaite 21:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I concur with Ryan Postlethwaites action and comments, but would further require you not to refer to fellow contributors by a name that they find offensive. LessHeard vanU 21:58, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank you all for Blocking me from editing wiki .. it would have een much etter if neutral editors would have also read my concerns on Barelwi Talk page and the history of that article it self tell all . i agree that i could not control me due to disruptive editing by mezzo specially by removing of Times online complete Report which was there for more than 2 months .so i thanks all to be agree on Blocking me . Shabiha 21:31, 9 November 2007 (UTC)