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/me renames EVula to...

TallyBot. ~ Riana ⁂ 03:15, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

~*Giggle*~ That's a good name! :o) Ariel♥Gold 03:15, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

...that's actually pretty creepy. I was thinking that very same thought just before popping into the shower, and lo and behold, it's here on my talk page when I come out.

Obviously, my shower is some sort of thought-transference device. EVula // talk // ☯ // 03:41, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

~*Ariel breaks out her tin foil hat...*~ Ariel♥Gold 03:42, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Showers don't interfere with your circuitry at all? That's some bot :) ~ Riana ⁂ 04:36, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually, Riana, what he won't tell us is that what was coming out of the shower head was actually WD-40, to loosen up all those chips and boards, and keep him running in primo condition. :P And probably some magic potion that keeps him (unlike other robots/computers :P) from crashing on a regular basis… :/ —  $PЯINGεrαgђ  05:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, it's important to stay lubed-up... er, wait, that came out wrong... EVula // talk // ☯ // 07:26, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

! —  $PЯINGεrαgђ  22:59, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

An excellent idea! TallyBot // talk // 08:12, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Admin

You're the second person this past month to suggest such a notion -- see here. :) Maybe I'll reconsider down the road, but I feel that my fortitude is in straight-up contributions to film articles. I appreciate the thought, though! —Erik (talk • contrib) - 15:39, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I hope so, though I can certainly understand your trepidation. In the year I've been an admin, I've had a major namespace shift away from my previous gnome work on Mortal Kombat articles and more towards general editing in the project namespace (not to mention an increase in activity on wikis other than en.wp).

I'd hate to see you pare back your outstanding film contributions, but I'd also love to see you be able to bust heads when vandals attempt to ruin your wonderful articles. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:11, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I think my biggest concern with pursuing adminship is that my attitude may be seen as arrogant because I tend to be very steadfast in shaping the content and structure of film articles. Also, while I am not interested in labeling myself in such a fashion, I can be perceived as a "deletionist" with the vast majority of my AfD involvements recommending to delete. Not to mention that "This user does not want to be an administrator" template sitting on my user page for quite some time! :) I've also had a couple of issues with admins regarding their removal of non-free images. (While I understand their perspective, their efforts struck me as too brusque.) I'd rather encourage a gradual change, fomenting discussion every so often at WikiProject Films and negotiating for appropriate implementation of images per #8 of WP:NFC#Policy, as seen here. I would probably want to understand the responsibilities of an admin more fully, but I don't want to be drawn away from my current editing priorities in the realm of film. Any thoughts about this? —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Ugh, I'm definitely out of sync with everyone else when it comes to Fair Use images; I think we're crazy heavy-handed about them, but my primary encyclopedia edits have been to fictional characters and the like, where the chance of having a free use image is completely and utterly impossible.

I can understand your concern about perception. Ultimately, I think it would be fine, but you're probably a better gauge of that than I am.

Personally, I enjoy being an admin, but my editing patterns are different from yours. As far as responsibilities go, it's more of a "be as involved as you want" sort of thing; when I feel like busting heads, it's all about WP:AIV patrol, but if I just want to do some simple editing, I can. Adminship very rarely comes into play (unless I run across the stray vandalism-only account). EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:38, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Rfa

Thanks for shutting my RFA down. I actually didn't even care if I got adminship at the time or not, I knew I wasn't ready anyway.

Redmarkviolinist 19:46, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Darth Maul External Links

Why do you say that link doesn't add anything of value? Did you look at the page it linked to? It brings in fan videos, youtube videos, fan art, flickr images, fan fiction, external links, and will have exclusive video from lucas. I think you should reconsider.

Mhanagan 8 November 2007 (UTC)

But none of it is actually worthwhile. External links should, in theory, help to create a better understanding of the topic for the reader. That link doesn't.

However, you're more than welcome to ask about whether it should be added or not on the talk page; if consensus determines that it does add to the article, I'd be more than happy to add it back in. EVula // talk // ☯ // 23:01, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I think it does add a lot to "fill out" the experience of Darth Maul in that it has photos and fan art and videos as well as discussion which the other sites linked do not provide and are unique to the Yahoo site. I posted on the talk page for the article as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhanagan (talk • contribs) 23:37, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned category

Can you delete Category:Wikipedians who like VeggieTales? It was created by TimySmidge before he was blocked, and it appears useless. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 09:24, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I just added includeonly tags on the userbox; once the category is empty for a few days, I'll speedy it per WP:CSD#C1. It's not like it's doing any harm in the meantime. EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:57, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Your thoughts...

Your thoughts, sir EVula, on this? ≈ The Haunted Angel Review Me! 20:58, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh bloody hell... part of me wants to be a nice person (a very, very small part) and give him a second chance, and the rest of me remembers vividly all the shit he stirred up.

Since AB was community banned (and not just indefinitely blocked), I'm not particularly inclined to let him back in without getting community support for it. I'm blocking the account and posting a topic about it to WP:ANI. EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Very well - thanks for the help, I'll keep an eye on the ANI. ≈ The Haunted Angel Review Me! 23:19, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Dearest EVula,
Thank you for your participation in my RFA, which closed successfully with 137 supports, 22 opposes, and 5 neutrals. Your kind words of support are very much appreciated and I look forward to proving you right. I would like to give special thanks to The_undertow and Phoenix-wiki for their co-nominations. Thank you again and best regards.

Strange, perhaps

Can you check out the user and talk pages of Presioni, Logan brennan and Mulliqi? The categories within them, I think they're supposed to be for articles only. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:57, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

This also looks like an unholy mess. User pages need citations? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:20, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

I removed the categories from Logan's userpage. For the other two, the problem is a hell of a lot more than their listing in the categories; I need to do a bit more with them (delete, perhaps). As for the category, I don't think it's a very big deal; several of those are sandboxes anyway, and going through and removing the categories would involve subst:ing the various templates that are causing the inclusion, which just plain isn't worth the trouble. EVula // talk // ☯ // 01:07, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Oh, I don't know which {{db}} to place on The Histoy of Dragon Ball Z Games and Dragon Ball Z History of Games. But since these are two very redudant redirects, can you simply delete them? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 05:59, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I deleted the The Histoy of Dragon Ball Z Games redirect; the other one had a substantial history that I didn't feel like wading through. Since it's not hurting anything to exist, I decided to take the lazy route and leave it alone. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 06:39, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

It's just junk, should have been redirected to List of Dragon Ball video games, I might just do that, or just place WP:CSD#G6 on it. Regardless, here's the history, what do you think should be done? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 07:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right, that's junk. Er, was junk. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 07:13, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

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User:EVula/Userboxes/admin since and User:EVula/Userboxes/bureaucrat since

Hi, Just a minor note. Noticed on both of those templates "3 years, 8 months and1 day." - Its missing a space after the and.. I couldnt spot it easily in the template, so i thought i'd let you know =). Oh, and when its days (ie day >= 2), its fine.

Reedy Boy 15:24, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I've noticed that. It's one of those things I'll get around to fixing sometime, but is never really pressing, since it only happens once a month. :D It's based on someone else's code, too, so I'm not terribly familiar with the guts... maybe I'll get around to it once the holidays hit and I've got more free time. EVula // talk // ☯ // 01:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

How does this look?

I've made this personal boilerplate to notify editors that I've closed their RFA early and also give them encouragements and other advice. It's here: User:Wikidudeman/rfafailnote. Wikidudeman 22:05, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Looks good, but I'd break it up some; a few short paragraphs are easier to read than one long one. EVula // talk // ☯ // 01:22, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

RE: RfA

Thanks for that (no, I don't mind). Anyway, what I am here mainly asking about is, do you understand what this guy is trying to say? I'm trying to figure out if it is an attack, praise, or something in between. He mentions a deletion, which I suppose is my CSD nom of Aerodynamic qualities of food which was subsequently deleted for the same reason. Is it just me, or have I been staring at too many math problems? Thanks, --FastLizard4 (Talk•Links•Sign) 04:56, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I... er... uh, I've got absolutely no clue what he was trying to say. Sometimes it's best to just smile, nod, and back away slowly; this might be one of those times. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 06:58, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your message, EVula. Belated congratulations on your adminship anniversary by the way. If I remember well, your RfA ended successfully a week or so before mine. :-) Best regards, Húsönd 01:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Ayup; November 7th was the day my RfA wrapped up. It's hard to believe it's been a year already... so much has happened, and yet it feels like only yesterday. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 01:05, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

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DBZ

This user, Xyex (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), continues to add original content, not to mention overcategorizes the Dragon Ball Z article. Can you help? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:38, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

There's only so much that I'm comfortable doing, considering my lack of working knowledge about everything related to DBZ. However, I did place a note at Talk:Dragon Ball Z#Reverted. His attitude is rather unhelpful, but if he can be convinced how to properly work with others on the project, we'll be all the better off. EVula // talk // ☯ // 01:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Only warning

Please assume good faith in your dealings with other editors, which you did not on User talk:Riana. Please stop being uncivil to your fellow editors; instead, assume that they are here to improve Misplaced Pages. Additionally, don't template regulars. XD Lara❤Love 05:40, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Good times. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:42, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

That's you told. /me runs to wikilawyer from behind admin friend Lara's back ~ Riana ⁂ 05:51, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Herbythyme

Regarding my tinkering with the vote count... I had a hunch that you were putting up the final tally, and decided to section edit the page just to mess with you. Glad to see that it worked! In all honesty, it was just me adding to a snowball victory for Herbythyme, and I didn't realize it was closing right then. Sorry for the confusion - ZZ ~ Evidence 14:40, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Nothing to apologize for; I looked at the last !vote, you edited the page, then I hit edit, and put in the last number I saw. Usually, I double-check, but didn't this time. The error was on my part, not yours. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 14:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:HOTTIE

Oi! Gimme back my page. :P GlassCobra 16:36, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Didn't realize you were the original author... I thought your comment was just you saying that you wanted it because it was funny. :) Page moved back to User:GlassCobra/Hotties are always notable. EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:39, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very kindly. :) GlassCobra 16:40, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

No worries. I also restored the redirect; too funny not to keep, plus R2 doesn't apply... (I really wish we had a D2 speedy deletion criteria) EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:45, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

The redirect is fine with me. :) Technically, you might have a few people growl at you, either because "WP:" is still in the article namespace, or because "WP:" is a pseudo-namespace, and the name-space (pseudo- or not) shouldn't redirect to the userspace. Sigh. I, however, have never been a stickler when it comes to those kind of CNR issues. Just hope Cyde doesn't see it, and you should be fine! ;) Best wishes, Xoloz 16:53, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, they might grumble, but it's just a technicality. Hopefully nobody will care. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:59, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Well if we want the technicalities, CSD R2, which covers cross namespace redirects to User: and User talk:, specifically excludes redirects from the pseudo WP: namespace. So it's obviously contemplated that such redirects can be acceptable. Other examples that spring to mind are WP:CRATSTATS and WP:ADMINSTATS. Anyway pseudo redirects to userpace are generally kept at RfD. And Cyde is in no position to complain about XNRs given that he uses a redirect from the Image: namespace to his userpage (Image:Cyde.png - see this RFD). WjBscribe 17:10, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

R2 didn't exclude those in writing until earlier this year. For this reason, old-timers like Danny are likely not to give a hoot what the specific wording of the exclusion is. For what it is worth, I think the exclusion is intended to apply for redirects from "WP:" (technically in the mainspace) to Misplaced Pages-space only. Xoloz 19:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Also the D2 speedy deletion criterion could be for the speedy deletion of fake "criterion for speedy deletion" pages! (With D1 criterion existing to speedy delete fake XfD process pages...) Owww... I just gave myself a headache! Best wishes, Xoloz 16:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I like the way you think. EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:59, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, seems our redirect has been tagged with a CSD... GlassCobra 17:04, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Interesting, it appears people don't like to follow MFDs; seeing as I just had to restore both the actual page and the redirect. GlassCobra 17:21, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

...the hell? I've fixed the article's history (when restoring a page, if you don't check any boxes, all the edits get restored), and participated in the RfD. This is bloody ridiculous. EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

You should have seen the conversation that Danny and I had on IRC... GlassCobra 18:34, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

It never fails to surprise me how utterly stupid some situations can be. Fighting over a damn silly redirect... ugh. EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Redirects are a dime a dozen, really. Doesn't it take more memory to delete them than have them? GlassCobra 18:55, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Technically, yes, though performance concerns don't matter very much. EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:04, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

• I warned you that some folks would disapprove, didn't I? ;) Turns out its Doc and Danny, who both rank up with Cyde on the "list of people whose actions often confound Xoloz" list that I keep in my head! ;) Good luck, Xoloz 19:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

One year ago

Good to see you like being an administrator. I suspect many users in your position don't like it much, because the community sometimes doesn't understand how tiresome is that position, with all those repetitive endless tasks. — Raffaello9 | Talk | 01:06, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm a glutton for punishment, what can I say? ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 03:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey, Ev. I was wondering if you might want to come over for some tea and crumpets? Let me know. Lara❤Love 03:49, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm trying to give up married women... EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Hahah! Well played, sir. GlassCobra 06:14, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Touché. Lara❤Love 20:21, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

trends, etc

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RfA

I considered not spamming talk pages but not saying "thanks" just isn't me. The support was remarkable and appreciated. I only hope that I am able to help a little on here. Please let me know if I can help you or equally if you find any of my actions questionable. Thanks & regards --Herby 12:46, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Asgardian

Hi, EV. I thought you might want to know you're mentioned among a host of other editors who have had issues with Asgardian, at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Asgardian-Tenebrae/Evidence, in case you wanted to comment. ---- Tenebrae (talk) 18:47, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Wow, just a little over 11 months ago. I had no idea who you were talking about at first. :)

Thanks for the heads up. Page watchlisted. EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:42, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Question

EVula, would you happen to know anything regarding WP:MOS:DP#Piping? There's a discussion going on here and perhaps you can share your thought on the subject. Thanks, Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:53, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Do you think the misspelt Son Goku (Dragon Ball, the fan-made Ginyu force saga, as well Galactic quadrants (Star Trek)‎ and Galactic quadrant (Star Trek)‎ should all be deleted? The last two I felt definitely should have been, the opposing sysop did not. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

And another, Chumba(comics), which I'm afraid of tagging for deletion since the incident with the sysop. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 10:02, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't appear to be any discussion going on at Talk:Byakuya, though it was recently moved. *shrug*

As for the redirects, I don't see any reason to delete them. Typo-derived redirects are good to have; I know I sometimes go straight to an article by typing it in (I use iSeek so I can come here in any application), and I'm not always 100% accurate with my typing. I'm not suggesting we create redirects for every possible typo, but if one exists, just leave it alone. EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:20, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I just found out that the Byakuya case was settled. As for redirects, you feel honestly feel those referenced above don't deserve a WP:CSD#G6? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Correct, because redirects are cheap. Anything that can help out the end user when navigating the encyclopedia is a good thing.
Do note that I'm not talking about Ginyu force saga, though. I don't know enough about DBZ (read: I don't know anything about it) to make a judgement call on that one. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:08, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Can you do me a quick favour? I asked something regarding Dragon Ball Z, and it seems I need a different admin. to step in and correct the policy violations. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:19, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Eh, never mind, I posted a thread on WP:AN. Thanks anyway, Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:09, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

That would probably be for the best; I'm hesitant to start editing anything anything involving DBZ that isn't very obvious, due to my ignorance on the topic. EVula // talk // ☯ // 23:20, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Your high recommendation has already proven its worth. –– Lid 07:33, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Meta

did that but it wasn't overly clear. Also forgot to mention the +sysop bit for .en on meta (if it makes a difference). Threads show renaming not to be an issue but not sure about Usurp. Cheers matey. Pedro :  Chat  23:23, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Groovy, just making sure everything runs smoothly. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 00:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

But I had more to say!

the_undertow 23:19, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

NO TALK FOR YOU! EVula // talk // ☯ // 23:22, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Jambalaya! the_undertow 23:25, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Son of a... I'm already hungry enough as it is. Thanks for making it all the worse. EVula // talk // ☯ // 23:27, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

My friend...

...would you have the dubious honor of closing my RfB? I hereby withdraw. Since you're one of my favorite future bureaucrats, I'd be glad if you could close it. :-) Best regards, Húsönd 01:09, 19 November 2007 (UTC)