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| Hey Nat: Did you get my last message? I'd appreciate it if you could respond to it. <font color="green">]</font> 15:01, 18 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi Nat! I noticed that IronDuke is trying to get me blocked for my edits at ], and without having filed a 3RR report to boot. To be clear, the edits in question are not simple reverts and are genuine good faith edits designed to improve the article. I have also used the talk there throughout this process, with both Timeshifter and myself pratically begging {{user|Tewfik}} and {{user|Armon}} to explain the specific problems they have with the almost 4,000 bytes of sourced material they keep deleting. As you can see at the talk there, there has been little in the way of substantive response. Anyway, I'm sure that this would be clear to you in your review of the matter, but I thought would be explicit anyway. Thanks for hearing me out and have a great day! ] 15:34, 18 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Actually, Tiamut, I'm not trying to get you blocked, simply pointing out that what you did on the article is clearly, demonstrably more like edit-warring than what Armon was doing. I think the best thing to do would be to unblock Armon, as he violated no rule, and was not warned. If none of that matters, my question is why is the person edit-warring with him, (who herself has a history of blocks for 3rr violations and edit-warring) not blocked? I think it's a fair question. <font color="green">]</font> 15:39, 18 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::Well IronDuke, you are of course entitled to your opinion, but I respectfully disagree, quite deeply actually. You will notice that the five edits you point to, make modifications in response to the concerns of other editors (as raised in edit summaries, since they never bothered to use the talk page). You will also note that I twice invited both Armon and Tewfik to discuss what their specific concerns with the material was, and that they failed to respond substantively. I even left which as you can see he reverted as "trolling", something he has done with such messages from me, and others before. I don't think it's fair to characterize my editing as edit-warring when we are in fact talking about the deletion of sourced material without any real explanation or any willingness to engage in discussion to come to some sort of consensus (i.e. vandalism and disruptive editing). So please don't make equivalencies between my behaviour and that of Timeshifter's (who made no reverts and used the talkpage extensively) vs that of Tewfik and Armon. There really is no comparison. ] 19:51, 18 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| I have just had a look at this situation and I have to say that I am amazed at the stance to you have taken with regards to this. | |||
| R. friend was in conflict with Domer48 and then R. friend revert to "his version" and blocks Domer48 without warning or an official report or without anything said to any of the editors on "his side". Surely this is not the correct procedure that an admin in conflict with another editor should take. | |||
| Domer48 should be unblocked, R. friend should have a sever wrap across the knuckles and then if needed an official report should be filed to determine if any blocks are warranted. I hope you have time to look at this situation with a fresh pair of eyes as it seems pretty unjust to me. regards--] (]) 17:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Page protection for that article is problematic. As you can see from the , other editors have been making edits to the article as well, notably ] and ]. By all means, if I make the same revert again anytime soon, block me. But don't punish those other editors because of an edit war between me and Saintjust, let them improve the article. ] <small>(] - ])</small> 05:25, 19 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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