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Split?

I am picking up where Jonjoe left off. Should this artticle be split? As the Valley Lines are both a local commuter network radiating from Cardiff, Newport and Bridgend and also were once a toc. This might be in a similar fasion to the Island Line. Simply south 20:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't think we need two articles on this topic. But we need to decide whether this article should be primarily about the former TOC, or should it be about the network? As that TOC corresponded more-or-less exactly to that network, much of the content of a Valley Lines (train operating company) article would duplicate a Valley Lines (network) article. (NB. Those are just hypothetical names!) --RFBailey 20:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I feel that this article does not read very smoothly. The fact that it discusses a TOC that ceased to eist in 2001, and goes on to discuss the modern routes (with reference to places such as Rhoose that were not served by that TOC). All the valley line routes have individual pages describing themselves. I feel the best option is to restructure the first few paragraphs about the TOC into their own page, an take the discussion on the current lines and form a page that discusses the valley line routes as a whole, an the role they play in the local area. This page would serve as an index to the seven (counting the Ebbw Vale line) lines, and should be referenced by the Arriva Trains Wales article in the appropriate place. Ansbaradigeidfran (talk) 15:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I think that it should be split, as the valley lines was a TOC and what is now classed as the valley lines includes such lines like the maesteg line which was operated by wales & borders - the valley lines are now considered the south wales commuter routes operated by ATW and there should be a new (and brief) article based on the former TOC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.16.210 (talk) 00:30, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Route Table Formatting

My edit () proposes to clarify the routes given that the Vale of Glamorgan Line and Merthyr Line both branch into two. 90.203.45.108 is against this with the reason given as broken formatting even though administrator Alison W reverted to my version. Comments and opinions please and could 90.203.45.168 be more specific with your objections? Thanks Welshleprechaun (talk) 18:21, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

And the reason for rendering stations within the Cardiff primary area boundaries ...? 90.203.45.168 (talk) 18:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Could you answer my request first. I've asked you a few times and you seem to be reluctant Welshleprechaun (talk) 18:46, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

The reason for rendering stations within the Cardiff primary area boundaries, please? 90.203.45.168 (talk) 18:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

You have given no reason for why you're edit should remain. I have. If you don't give a reason, we will have to get administrator intervetion again Welshleprechaun (talk) 18:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

As requested in the first place, please provide an explanation for the entirety of that edit. 90.203.45.168 (talk) 19:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Valley Lines is a system in Cardiff and the Valleys. The stations in bold merely point out which are in Cardiff for the reader's convienience. What irritates you so much about that? Now, explain your objections. Welshleprechaun (talk) 19:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

OK. Why do you feel the need to make the distinction between which ones are inside the boundaries of the Cardiff primary area? What is the significance of the county boundaries to the rail network as a whole? 90.203.45.168 (talk) 19:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Like I have said, for the reader's convienience. This is an encylopaedia, a place of information. You can't point out anything wrong can you? It's yet another example of your anti-Cardiff views isn't it Welshleprechaun (talk) 19:13, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I could throw in a picture of a pink elephant if I thought it was to the reader's convenience to do so. What is the relevance of the Cardiff city boundaries to this article? Why identify the ones within Cardiff, and not the ones within Vale of Glamorgan, Bridgend, RCT, Caerphilly, etc.? Why give undue weight? Did you stop to think that perhaps this is really a symptom of your own pro-Cardiff bias? 90.203.45.168 (talk) 19:18, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

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