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• "Many Luthra's are extremely successful in terms of business."
• "The Gupta Dynasty assumed control of Northern India in 400 CE, and the Luthras joined forces with the Guptas to maintain law and order in what became India's Golden Age."
• Luthras held prominent positions as rulers and warriors.

and adding alleged prominent people with the surname Luthra who do not meet wikipedia guidelines for prominence.

He has since been stalking and vandalising Malhotra, Khatri, Kapoor etc pages by users who have changed his edits to NPOV ones. See his vandalism of the Malhotra page for example where he has removed dozens of lines of entries with authoritative sources such as links to Indian government websites. He has vandalised the Malhotra page again today though I see another user has reverted his edit.

Could dishant please be blocked from doing so. He has already received warnings to stop. Many thanks.

The IP user is mincing facts. The versions that he brings up are long gone and I no longer condone them. Look at the current versions for which he is reverting me for and then make your own decision. dishant 00:09, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I see you saw fit to delete the page relating to the legendary, now retired model, Andrea Neal on the grounds of notability. This is a travesty, she is probably one of the three most famous models in her field, has appeared in numerous films and shoots, and also won several awards. Would you consider any pornographic model/actress non-notable? Possibly because it is not something of interest to yourself?82.153.138.12 14:11, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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• the sages (so called philosophers) are worse than even the most foolish person today
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• B Most Hindu scriptures are pieces of low mentality
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• D
• Maintenance of incorrect views which demean 75% of Indians
• subhuman practices in the worst social system in the world
• all other Indians apart from Dalits have polluted minds full of theft and corruption

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Lists of people by name

I'm not sure if you realize this, but the list of people by name article has something like 1400 subpages. Does your DRV closure encompass these? --- RockMFR 04:16, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, all the subpages are covered under the close. I realised that after the closure and was trying to figure out the best way to go about it when I received your message. I requested Eagle_101 to help me out and he has graciously accepted to help me out using a script. --Srikeit 04:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

You're carrying a huge load of responsibility now. In your closure, you have failed to address the concerns of all those, including myself, who were against deletion without any replacement. Various suggestions have been made for that, but it seems no measures have been taken. Could you comment on that, please? All the best, <KF> 09:48, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't believe that it is my responsibility to clarify and counter each and every argument in a discussion before closing. I considered the arguments offered, determined the consensus achieved in both the former AFD and the DRV, used the discretion I have been afforded as an admin and made the call, which seems to have been accepted as fair by most (as indicated by the lack of complaints here). However if this close seems grossly unfair or irresponsible on my part, please feel free to start up a discussion about it on WP:ANI or any other avenue suitable to you and if you can garner enough support for your cause, do bring it back to DRV. In the meantime, I stand by my decision. Thanks --Srikeit 10:19, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

It would be awful, wouldn't it, if you as an admin didn't stand by your decision, so I didn't expect anything else. I'm talking about an altogether different thing here, as the inevitability of this bulk of information being eventually deleted was clear to me (although, personally, I don't see any consensus anywhere). No, I'm talking about an alternative to the c.1,400 pages that are now lost. Their removal has orphaned what may well be hundreds of biographical stubs, and the next step might be their being tagged for deletion by an insensitive bot.

Carcharoth has made a suggestion (at the end of Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/List of people by name) what could be done to counter this, and my (and other people's) humble idea was to "projectify" all those pages in the way it was done with User:Black Falcon/List of German actors (from 1895 to the present) or Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Novels/List of literary works with eponymous heroines. That's what you haven't addressed in your closure, and I just want to know what you think about it. Best wishes, <KF> 10:50, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Carcharoth's was an interesting suggestion but even after a dual listing at AFD/MFD and a complete DRV discussion it did not gain any substantial consensus nor did it provoke any discussion elsewhere. However the consensus to delete the pages was quite clear with substantiated reasons in both the discussions so I based my decision on it. As for the loss of information, I request you to look at WP:EFFORT. Anyway, I don't think my talk page is the best forum for drawing attention to the matter. Please go to WP:ANI if you want a more thorough discussion about this. Thanks --Srikeit 11:43, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

And I've added my thoughts there. I hope you will be able to respond there as I somehow managed to miss the DRV completely! :-( Thanks. Carcharoth 14:34, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Tiny DRV procedural note

On the rare occasions when DRV results in an outright reversal to delete (without relisting), I usually annotate the original XfD, so that people won't be confused by the record. I did so on your behalf here. Best wishes, Xoloz 15:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

PS. Isn't closing DRVs <sarcasm> so much fun?<sarcasm> It's a certainty that someone will really dislike almost everything you do! ;) Don't let it depress you.

Thanks for the note. I'm rather new to DRV closing so am still on a learning curve. However, this is fun! I wonder if I can be classified as insane now? ;) --Srikeit 15:23, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

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Unprotect Request: Imran Khan

Hi Srikeit, i am trying to edit Imran Khan but I cannot do it because of protection. The article is hopelessly out-dated and unstructured. The changes that I made are all referenced; the changes are not POVs. Please see the my latest version (metapoet) and apprise me as to what is disputable. Help please.

List of jazz clubs

Srikeit, I took the liberty of changing your AfD tag to one that I found for a 2nd nomination. I hope I did it right - but you should look and make sure. Thanks - and thanks for your judgment to send this through AfD again. - Freechild 17:52, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I'm on a rather slow connection that is really acting up tonight so the error evaded my attention. --Srikeit 18:01, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

On your DRV closure

You are aware that deletion reviews are to be closed based on strength of argument, right? You realize you closed it for people who had none, correct? How did you come to this conclusion? Keep in mind - "Misplaced Pages is not Wikinews" is not a reason for speedy deletion, and is not a reason for one person to make a decision, either. You should reconsider this immediately. --badlydrawnjeff talk 05:03, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I strongly endorse Srikeit's actions. Misplaced Pages is not a newspaper, and as the largest source of information on the internet, we have some responsibilities to the subjects of our articles. Their lives do get affected by the way they are potrayed here. We have responsibilities. Do no harm, that is what BLP means. Will the victims of a forgettable and despicable crime like this be still known after 10 years? Did they appear on Oprah to gain notability? On a contrary note, they came around to let the society know about the evil that lurks in the hearts of men, and how the guardians of children should protect them. Providing literary and permanent notability would be a great disservice to the young boys and to the society as a whole. On the whole, by wonking process, you are the one doing great disservice to the community. The delete arguments held much more weight than constant reminders that this article should have gone through an AfD atleast. It was more than likely that a responsible administrator would have chosen to close the DRV as a delete and salt. — Nearly Headless Nick 06:06, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Sir Nick for the endorsement above. To Jeff, I did not base my closure solely on "Misplaced Pages is not WikiNews". It was one of the key statements that influenced it. There were umpteen reasonable arguments endorsing the closure (like the one above by Nick) in the entire 93kb discussion including two highly detailed and cogent statements by NYB. I went through the entire discussion several times, considered the weight of each argument, gauged the consensus and made a judgment call using the discretion afforded to me as an admin. If you feel that my decision is despicable and callous, feel free to bring this up in the arbitration case you have running. I, however, don't think I'll be reconsidering my close. Thanks --Srikeit 08:54, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I may have to. The closure was not based in policy or argument. That's problematic. I don't see any evidence of weight consideration, for instance, as you seem to have been adversely affected by the false BLP claims. --badlydrawnjeff talk 13:46, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

It's a little strange that my "problematic" closure which was "not based in policy or argument" has received no opposition except yours. Instead the closure has had wide acceptance and endorsements (including three right here) from several respected members of the community. You may very well take this matter to ArbCom, but if you may, do pause and reflect upon this eloquent Alexander Pope quote. Thanks --Srikeit 04:12, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Just wanted to add that I strongly endorse your closure as well. Had I closed it I would have done the exact same thing...--Isotope23 13:38, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Strongly endorse the closure. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

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Hi Srikeit. I noticed that the deletion review of "Brian Crecente" had been removed with the comment "relisted." It's not clear to me what this means. Was the article put back into AfD? Or is re-listing something else? Thanks. Drew30319 04:32, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

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Deletion of entries for Charlene Downes/Gavin Hopley

I have concerns over your deletion of the entries on Charlene Downes and Gavin Hopley. You appear to have been swayed by a number of contributors (such as 'Guy', 'Doc', and 'One Night in Hackney') that have appeared in deletion debates for several similar entries (concerning white victims of racially motivated killings), all of whom have made extremely similar comments in each case decrying the entries being at all 'noteworthy', in spite of the racial aspect in the case of Gavin Hopley's murder (at least as notable as the racial aspect in the case of Anthony Walker's murder, said aspect being why a Misplaced Pages entry is maintained on that murder).

Also in spite of the several remarkable aspects of the case of Charlene Downes' murder, beyond the racial aspect of that case, when you consider the accounts of her having underage sex with her suspected killer and people around him, as well as the police investigating the possibility that her body may have been cut up and sold as meat to customers of a takeaway run by her suspected killer, that comments made by these contributors I refer to describing the above as 'not worthy of note' are specious and likely insufficient grounds for deletion. As you seem to feel differently may I ask you why you found the comments in favour of deletion compelling enough to proceed to delete the entries in question. It certainly seems as if you did not apply any critical judgment to the comments made by the people who wanted the entries gone, even when the outlandishness of the comments made in the Charlene Downes entry must have been readily apparent to others, not least the contributors who voted in favour of keeping the entry.

The impression I get is that these contributors seem to have been following a specific agenda of promoting the deletion of these kind of entries, as illustrated by the insistence of some of the particular contributors that the entries served only to further a 'far-right' agenda, comments which indicate the request to delete was itself motivated by a partisan bias and not a wish to adhere to the spirit of neutrality, which to my mind goes against the NPOV policy adhered to by Misplaced Pages, as does the deletion of the noted entries which unfortunately seems to be a deeply partisan act. I would further note that IMO the deletion may have been influenced by the fact that racial violent crime where white people are the victims in toto is a matter of some controversy, amongst the left and right.

What is especially noteworthy is that the deletion debate concerning the Charlene Downes entry was itself deleted, which is if you will forgive me for saying so, highly suspicious. Again, this comes down to the comments made in favour of deletion, the possible concern being that viewers of Misplaced Pages would raise questions as to why those comments were allowed to 'carry the day' as it were when they plainly were either repeated from other deletion debates or else sought to deny the noteworthy status of the case itself, rather explicitly in the case of some commentators. I have a copy of that vanished deletion debate saved to my PC and would be able to discuss particular comments with you, with regards to this matter.

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I'd just like to add that I am in agreement with the comment above. The Charlene Downes entry should not have been deleted; there is good reason to suspect political motivation behind its deletion. How does one go about reinstating or calling for reinstatement of an article which has been deleted inappropriately?81.102.143.96 11:06, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Srikeit, are you going to do The Happy Rampager the courtesy of replying to his particularly cogent post? I would agree that there are at least some tenuous grounds for arguing that, currently at least, an article devoted to "Charlene Downes" fails the notability test, although in my view the strong and now largely accepted suspicion that she was given the Sweeney Todd treatment by her murderer makes this a particularly remarkable, indeed noteworthy case. Equally a case can be made for the notability of victim Anthony Walker, not so much on the grounds of being murdered. With all respect and sympathy to his bereaved parents, a black lad getting an axe put through his had by some random white racist is tragic and newsworthy, but hardly encyclopaedically notable. What makes Anthony Walker's case notable is the popular hysteria, almost Diana-like in intensity, fomented by the media, leading to such sickening events as what was tantamount to a state funeral service.

I agree with Rampager that those baying for the deletion of this and similar articles about "black-on-white" racist murders give the impression of being a posse of left-wing propagandists; may be some of them are even sockpuppets. Do you always give in the shouting of the rabid mob rather than listening to and weighing the value of arguments?

But what I particularly want to an answer to, and what frankly stinks about your handling of the case, is your decision to courtesy-blank the AfD discussion page, as "a courtesy to the surviving relatives". Really? I wonder if Karen Downes is aware of the existence of Misplaced Pages, or is even an Internet user. Have you asked her or those around her, perchance? And, if such a consideration applies in this case, should not the same courtesy be extended to the undoubtedly equally traumatized parents of the late Anthony Walker? Should not then both the article and the talk page and every other Misplaced Pages reference to this unfortunate young man be removed forthwith to spare the feelings of Anthony's "surviving relatives"?

You seem either to display a level of political bias unseemly in an Administrator, or an equally unacceptable willingness to give in to the rantings of a claque of politically biased agitators with a "no-platform" agenda.

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You made some changes to the Deletion Review Log for June, 6 2007 and in the process the outcome of the discussion regarding the above referenced article was removed from the log. I don't know if that's the proper way of handling a re-listed AfD or not. If not, could you please add the information back. I would, but (1) don't know if it's proper (per my question above) and (2) am likely to muck it up since another change has occurred after yours. Thanks. Drew30319 00:05, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

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compendex

Good day Srikeit,

I don't want to trouble you, but I was wondering if you could give me a little info about Compendex -- it was prod'ed then deleted in Nov. 2006 (you were the deleting admin). I'm wondering what the reason giving for prodding was, since this was one of my articles, and I'm pretty familiar with content standards :) Don't worry, I'm not upset, but I have a handful of other similar database articles that I watch or have created (e.g. inspec) and Compendex shouldn't be any different from these. I just want to check, since I wasn't notified and I would like to recreate the article, at least as a redirect. Thanks for your help, -- phoebe/(talk) 19:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

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User:Asdfg12345 is edit warring on this article, and has gone well over the 3 revert rule. Please take a look if you get time. ʄ!•¿talk? 14:45, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Asdfg12345 reverted parts of my edits as well as Fennessy's, and has indeed gone over the 3RR. But I strongly discourage admin intervention at this moment. I am making active attempts to discuss with the user and the user, albeit displaying incorrect behavior, does not seem to be hopeless. I don't believe 3RR bans will solve the problem at all. Thanks. Herunar (talk) 14:56, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

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