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User:Hopiakuta

Re your comments at Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette alerts#User:Hopiakuta, I would appreciate it if this was taken further. I took the issue to the administrators' noticeboard as suggested, and the discussion was closed as resolved with no further action taken - my request that redress regarding the personal attacks the user engages in regularly was left unanswered before the entire discussion was archived. I would support someone else taking this to a higher level, as I don't know how to do it myself. -- Roleplayer (talk) 01:55, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your message! I'm honestly stumped on this one. Something clearly does need to be done--the user seems to have bona fide issues, but that shouldn't exempt him from being civil and working with other users. I'm going to run this situation by an admin or two that I think might be able to help, or at least have some idea where to take this. Give me a little while and I'll see what I can do. Best, DanielEng (talk) 05:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

I blocked the user for 31 hours as noted at User_talk:Hopiakuta#Block_for_incivility.2C_threats.2C_etc..2C_to_prevent_further_damage. Bearian (talk) 17:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your help here! Best, DanielEng (talk) 03:35, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

tnull|helpme

Sadly, the {{helpme}} tag will not do you much good. The users who respond to this tag are best at helping with "newbie" questions, editing help, and simple edit conflicts. Many of the actions you have already suggested would be a better way to go (admin notification per WP:AN/I or a WP:RFC). You may also want to try a IRC channel for more immediate attention. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. If you feel that another editor may respond better than I, please feel free to re-add the {{helpme}} template. Best regards. --omtay38 07:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for stopping in to reply! Ive been completely stumped on this one...it seems as though an RfC might end up being the way to go here. Best, DanielEng (talk) 08:19, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Your comments

I disagree. The purpose of WP:ANI isn't to deal with incivility. Addhoc (talk) 22:07, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I was just in the process of leaving you a note, but you beat me to the Talk Page. :) Anyway, when an issue is up at ] already, it's wise to leave it there and let it run its course. While it might not be a place for incivility complaints per se, they certainly are addressed there. Not to mention that ANI is also overseen by administrators; WQA is not. So there's really nothing we can do to discipline an editor in a case of severe edit warring, personal attacks or incivility.

I'd also add that filing a WQA under someone else's signature is unacceptable. If BgHx had wanted to bring the issue to WQA, s/he could have done so. Copying text from ANI, using someone else's signature and making it appear as though it came from them, as you did here, is not acceptable. In the future, please do not file WQAs for others this way--either file them yourself with your own signature, or suggest that the editor with the problem takes that step. Don't file them in a way that makes them appear as though they came from someone else. Best, DanielEng (talk) 22:13, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Nope, you're wrong. The purpose of WP:ANI is handling incidents, while WP:WQA is dealing with a lack of etiquette. If you had looked at my user page, you would know that I'm an administrator, so I don't require an explanation of admin powers. If you don't want to assist at WP:WQA that's fine, but I don't require your advice. Addhoc (talk) 22:19, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm really not going to argue with you about this. Filing a complaint under another person's name, in another forum while the issue is being discussed elsewhere, is out of line, and if you really are an administrator, I'd think you'd be aware of that point. I've never heard of an admin thinking it's acceptable to file WQA complaints under someone else's name, or bringing an issue to WQA without choosing to step in on their own and deal with it themselves. Again, if the user had an problem, s/he could have brought it to us on their own. DanielEng (talk) 22:24, 1 February 2008 (UTC)