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Andrew Lih teaches at the ] researches participatory journalism in the form of blogs and wikis. See the ] page for more information. Sometimes he can be found at . | |||
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"Fate is just what you call it when you don't know the name of the person screwing you over." Lois, from ''Malcolm in the Middle'' | |||
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"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organised violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non westerners never do." | |||
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''-Samuel P Huntington'' | |||
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"Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried." | |||
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''-Winston Churchill'' | |||
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"When you are the good guys, you've got to act like the good guys." -Lindsey Graham, Republican Senator from South Carolina, on the reported abuses at Abu Ghraib prison | |||
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"Among all the things I'm going to tell you today about being a journalist, all you have to remember is two words: governments lie." - US journalist I.F. Stone, to journalism students | |||
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Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing. -Jimmy Wales, July 2004 | |||
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== Would Martin Luther King like Misplaced Pages? == | |||
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Everybody can be great. Because anybody can serve. You don't have to have a college degree to serve. You don't have to make your subject and your verb agree to serve.... You don't have to know the second theory of thermodynamics in physics to serve. You only need a heart full of grace. A soul generated by love. -''Martin Luther King, Jr.'' | |||
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== Think Misplaced Pages is too combative? == | |||
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Maybe not as much as you think. See some statistics for how many actual NPOV disputes there are in Misplaced Pages. ] (20 Sep 2003) | |||
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== Shared watchlists == | |||
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== Experiences == | |||
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* '''Plagiarism.'''One student mistakenly thought that breaking one Misplaced Pages entry into two was 'plagiarism' because she was copying the information onto another page. I had to convince her that because it was internal to Misplaced Pages, it was like rearranging furniture inside your home, not stealing someone else's sofa. So to speak. | |||
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* '''Copying.'''Many had to adjust to what they were used to doing - copying. Some students lifted entire sections from tourism or government Web sites. Showing the power of collaborative editing, Wikipedians struck them out, or removed copyrighted photos. Good for Wikipedians. Students were warned before the project and were warned sternly once again -- no material can be copied into Misplaced Pages without permission. The practice still persists, however. | |||
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* '''Moving around.'''Changing names of entries confused some, but they got it eventually. ] was the original entry, and was changed to ]. Discussion ensued on the boards, until people realized what happened, and it was resolved. | |||
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* '''Writing style.''' Folks were unaccustomed to using disinterested, third person, NPOV style. Having been first-person writers most of their lives, most used "I" and "we," as well as the imperative, "Let us talk about the car industry..." Because the content was about something they knew and loved - Hong Kong - many took up the role of cheerleader, and could not resist using phrases such as "the most beautiful" or "the excellent efficiency." I welcome theories to help explain this tendency. Some have said Chinese language speakers tend to the more flowery and expressive terminology. | |||
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* '''Enthusiasm.''' Students got enthusiastic after a critical mass of information was put into their entries. They started building on each others' work and picked up momentum on their progress. Some got quite carried away with photos, like on the ] article. | |||
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== Know when to finish == | |||
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畫蛇添足 (pinyin: hua4 she2 tian1 zu2) | |||
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Moral: Don't ruin your work by unnecessary additions | |||
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Revision as of 00:13, 15 July 2005
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This episode of The Simpsons always reminds of me of Misplaced Pages.
Andrew Lih teaches at the University of Hong Kong researches participatory journalism in the form of blogs and wikis. See the Misplaced Pages:School_and_university_projects page for more information. Sometimes he can be found at Chinese Misplaced Pages.
Quotes
"Fate is just what you call it when you don't know the name of the person screwing you over." Lois, from Malcolm in the Middle
"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organised violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non westerners never do." -Samuel P Huntington
"Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried." -Winston Churchill
"When you are the good guys, you've got to act like the good guys." -Lindsey Graham, Republican Senator from South Carolina, on the reported abuses at Abu Ghraib prison
"Among all the things I'm going to tell you today about being a journalist, all you have to remember is two words: governments lie." - US journalist I.F. Stone, to journalism students
Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing. -Jimmy Wales, July 2004
Would Martin Luther King like Misplaced Pages?
Everybody can be great. Because anybody can serve. You don't have to have a college degree to serve. You don't have to make your subject and your verb agree to serve.... You don't have to know the second theory of thermodynamics in physics to serve. You only need a heart full of grace. A soul generated by love. -Martin Luther King, Jr.
Think Misplaced Pages is too combative?
Maybe not as much as you think. See some statistics for how many actual NPOV disputes there are in Misplaced Pages. User:Fuzheado/NPOV disputes (20 Sep 2003)
Shared watchlists
The idea of "shared watchlists" often comes up. You can do this type of thing by convention using normal pages, and the "Related changes" option. Example created as an experiment under my user page, but now a generally used page:
- Watchlist changes for MostVandalizedPages (using Special:Recentchangeslinked)
and the related list:
Experiences
Here's a running log of what I've experienced so far in setting 80 students loose on Misplaced Pages:
- Namespaces. Some students were confused by the different namespaces, so one group created their entry as "Misplaced Pages:Victoria_Peak" and wound up editing that for a while before moving to "Victoria_Peak"
- Plagiarism.One student mistakenly thought that breaking one Misplaced Pages entry into two was 'plagiarism' because she was copying the information onto another page. I had to convince her that because it was internal to Misplaced Pages, it was like rearranging furniture inside your home, not stealing someone else's sofa. So to speak.
- Copying.Many had to adjust to what they were used to doing - copying. Some students lifted entire sections from tourism or government Web sites. Showing the power of collaborative editing, Wikipedians struck them out, or removed copyrighted photos. Good for Wikipedians. Students were warned before the project and were warned sternly once again -- no material can be copied into Misplaced Pages without permission. The practice still persists, however.
- Moving around.Changing names of entries confused some, but they got it eventually. The Apple Daily was the original entry, and was changed to Apple Daily. Discussion ensued on the boards, until people realized what happened, and it was resolved.
- Writing style. Folks were unaccustomed to using disinterested, third person, NPOV style. Having been first-person writers most of their lives, most used "I" and "we," as well as the imperative, "Let us talk about the car industry..." Because the content was about something they knew and loved - Hong Kong - many took up the role of cheerleader, and could not resist using phrases such as "the most beautiful" or "the excellent efficiency." I welcome theories to help explain this tendency. Some have said Chinese language speakers tend to the more flowery and expressive terminology.
- Enthusiasm. Students got enthusiastic after a critical mass of information was put into their entries. They started building on each others' work and picked up momentum on their progress. Some got quite carried away with photos, like on the MTR article.
Know when to finish
畫蛇添足 (pinyin: hua4 she2 tian1 zu2) Literally: Adding legs when painting a snake. Moral: Don't ruin your work by unnecessary additions
Templates
{{fairuse}} - {{stub}} - {{disambig}} - {{vfd}} - {{spoiler}} - {{NPOV}} - {{Disputed}} - {{protected}} - {{delete}} - {{copyvio2}} - Thanks for experimenting with Misplaced Pages. Your test worked, and has now been removed. Please use ] for any other tests you want to do, since testing material in articles will normally be removed quickly. Please see the ] if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks.
For images
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