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This page says that John Smith is the name used by hospitals for unnamed male patients. The other page says they use the name John Doe. Neither has a citation. --'''''<font color="red">]</font><font color="green">]</font><font color="blue">]</font>''''' @759, i.e. 17:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC) This page says that John Smith is the name used by hospitals for unnamed male patients. The other page says they use the name John Doe. Neither has a citation. --'''''<font color="red">]</font><font color="green">]</font><font color="blue">]</font>''''' @759, i.e. 17:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:There's no way that ''all'' hospitals consistently use either John Doe ''or'' John Smith. Quite likely, some use one and others use the other and others use another name altogether. That being said, without a citation it's all just guesswork or anecdotal. ] <sup>]</sup> 10:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC) :There's no way that ''all'' hospitals consistently use either John Doe ''or'' John Smith. Quite likely, some use one and others use the other and others use another name altogether. All you have to do is change it to "some hospitals" and the contradiction disappears. That being said, without a citation it's all just guesswork or anecdotal. ] <sup>]</sup> 10:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

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Heh, remember that Simpsons episode where the zombies are going back into their graves, and one zombie interrupts another burying himself: "wait a minute, I'm John Smith!" "John Smith 1882?" "My mistake."

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Very amusing. orizon 04:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

John Not-A-Vampire-At-All Smith

His pseudonym should be listed as John Smith, as the middle section is merely Vimes' nickname for him in his mind - he doesn't call him it, and it is mentioned only once. Anthrcer 12:53, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Most famous John Smith needs to go up top

I'm putting a reference to Captain John Smith of Jamestown, Virginia fame up top because he is far and away the most prominent of all John Smiths, ever. Readers should not have to search down to near the bottom of the list to find him, especially when the Misplaced Pages article name is not intuitive. If somebody else wanted to, I'd probably support making the article for this John Smith the place readers would go when they type in the simple name, but I'm not so absolutely certain about this that I'd do it myself. Every American past the age of 12 should know who this John Smith is. I guess he wouldn't be prominent outside the United States. Noroton (talk) 21:52, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

An objection has been made that the reasoning for this is "U.S.-centric" and "POV". POV applies to controversies outside Misplaced Pages, not to justifications of edits for Misplaced Pages reasons -- that's called not POV but "reasoning". "U.S.-centric" would apply if other cultures were ignored, but they aren't -- there just happens to be an extremely important "John Smith" in the U.S. Actually there are extremely important uses of "John Smith" in England and elsewhere to denote a placeholder name, and that is also mentioned up top. It isn't bias if there are objective reasons for an edit that hold up. But let consensus rule.Noroton (talk) 00:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Contradiction

This page says that John Smith is the name used by hospitals for unnamed male patients. The other page says they use the name John Doe. Neither has a citation. --Thinboy00 @759, i.e. 17:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

There's no way that all hospitals consistently use either John Doe or John Smith. Quite likely, some use one and others use the other and others use another name altogether. All you have to do is change it to "some hospitals" and the contradiction disappears. That being said, without a citation it's all just guesswork or anecdotal. Good Ol’factory 10:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)