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| Also, "San Francisco, California Sheriff's Department," by strict grammar, implies that "San Francisco" is an additional clause or subset to "California Sheriff's Department," which does not exist. If using that format, the state name would have to be separated out as a parenthetical clause with two commas -- e.g., "San Francisco, California, Sheriff's Department." However, that's not the official name of the department. Better to leave it at its plain name until another article pops up that needs to share the name, and then to just place a further identifier parenthetically at the end of the title, so that the organization's true name isn't broken in the middle (which can hamper certain kinds of searches). ] ] 01:36, 16 March 2008 (UTC) | Also, "San Francisco, California Sheriff's Department," by strict grammar, implies that "San Francisco" is an additional clause or subset to "California Sheriff's Department," which does not exist. If using that format, the state name would have to be separated out as a parenthetical clause with two commas -- e.g., "San Francisco, California, Sheriff's Department." However, that's not the official name of the department. Better to leave it at its plain name until another article pops up that needs to share the name, and then to just place a further identifier parenthetically at the end of the title, so that the organization's true name isn't broken in the middle (which can hamper certain kinds of searches). ] ] 01:36, 16 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
| :Oh, one other thing. Please don't try to undo page moves yourself. If I recall correctly, it screws up something with redirects and article and talk-page histories when pagemoves are reversed without using either admin tools or ] rights. I can actually take care of all those pagemoves tomorrow or Monday. ] ] 06:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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California sheriff's department moves
Hi. I appreciate the work you've been doing on Californian law enforcement agencies. I noticed today, though, that you were moving a lot of sheriff's department articles to new names. Before you move any more articles, has there been a consensus on this kind of renaming at WP:LE or elsewhere?
The reason for my concern is that these renamings are putting the articles at not-entirely-obvious, non-official variations of the actual departments' names without having an apparent need to do so. For example, the name of the San Francisco Sheriff's Department is not "San Francisco, California Sheriff's Department," nor, to my knowledge, is there any need to disambiguate it from any other San Francisco Sheriff's Department elsewhere. In the cases of the myriad Washington County Sheriff's Departments that are sure to exist across the US, disambiguation and pagemove renaming would be necessary, but in a format showing the incidental state identifier as being parenthetical to, and separate from, the official name, e.g., "Washington County Sheriff's Department (New Somestate)."
Also, "San Francisco, California Sheriff's Department," by strict grammar, implies that "San Francisco" is an additional clause or subset to "California Sheriff's Department," which does not exist. If using that format, the state name would have to be separated out as a parenthetical clause with two commas -- e.g., "San Francisco, California, Sheriff's Department." However, that's not the official name of the department. Better to leave it at its plain name until another article pops up that needs to share the name, and then to just place a further identifier parenthetically at the end of the title, so that the organization's true name isn't broken in the middle (which can hamper certain kinds of searches). --Dynaflow babble 01:36, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, one other thing. Please don't try to undo page moves yourself. If I recall correctly, it screws up something with redirects and article and talk-page histories when pagemoves are reversed without using either admin tools or rollback rights. I can actually take care of all those pagemoves tomorrow or Monday. --Dynaflow babble 06:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC)