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Israel and Palestine

Hi. What's the problem with the article. As a matter of courtesy, perhaps you could discuss this with me? Pls reply to my Talk. Thanks. HG | Talk 16:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your reasonable tone and note. Let's continue on article Talk, where I posed a naming question to you.thanks, HG | Talk 21:46, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi again. Thanks for all your help and knowledge of style, image, ref, etc. Question -- I found a site (Sol Singer Collection) with some stamp images. On commons, the category now says that Israel govt allows free use without restriction of images of its stamps. (I checked the Hebrew myself.) So, can I copy and upload the images I find on various sites? Thanks. pls reply to my talk. be well, HG | Talk 21:38, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

PS I'd like to nom a DYK for the Israel article, any suggestions for the hook? Thanks. HG | Talk 21:40, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, you didn't tell me you submitted the DYK. ;-( ...HG | Talk 09:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Anyway, thanks for help with the image copyright stuff. Do you think you could add an Israel entry to Commons:Stamps/Public domain and/or create a template to make it easier for folks to upload Israel stamps? Thanks muchly, HG | Talk 09:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I put in some local and transition info that I think fits well with the Israel & Palestine article. Any chance you're thinking there might be a role for an overview? Maybe you'd like it to have a name that doesn't fit the country-specific articles? It covers the EEF, Mandate, Jordan/Egypt, Israel and PNA, plus the JNF, Safed and other ad hoc local postal history? I see that we might lose both DYKs, which isn't the end of the world, though I have put alot of effort into this thing. Thanks for your consideration. (I also put info on the article talk about the overview.) HG | Talk 17:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Airmail translation

Hello! I just wanted to tell you, that the translation draft can be found at Misplaced Pages talk:Translation/Airmail, which is the common place for a pending translation. Please can you have a look at the termini technici, I am not quite sure about the English terms. Kind regards, — Tirkfl 15:47, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
P.S. Maybe we can start a list of philatelic terms in all major languages?

Cool, I will review later today if possible and look for citations that are needed to keep the article within current verifiability guidelines. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 16:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Israeli postal history

On 10 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Postage stamps and postal history of Israel, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

• Mazel tov and thanks for your fine work on this! HG | Talk 11:38, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Irish Postcode edit

Hi. I was wondering why you undid my edit to the Irish postcode article? You marked it as linkspam in the history page, why? I don't work for, nor am I associated with the company in any way. It is to my knowledge the only serious, active attempt at a postcode system for Ireland. It seems to be quite a thought-through system and I think it adds to the article. I certainly didn't mean my edit to be advertising or spam. Is it simply because a private company is trying to developing it that you object to my edit as linkspam? --Trounce (talk) 16:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

While I understand you reasoning, this is a link to a commercial company for a proposed product that may or may not be used as an official postcode system for Ireland, it does not belong on the Postal code page which deals with the official postcode systems. Whether you call the link advertising or linkspam is no reflection on you or your lack of connection to the company. However, there is a link to this topic in the Republic of Ireland postal addresses article though I am not too happy about it there either. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 17:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't follow your logic on how did you came to the decision that it does not belong on the Postal code page? Is it because it is still being developed and isn't in actual use?--Trounce (talk) 11:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Both reasons, plus it is not a system in use by the Irish postal authority, An Post, therefore is not an authorised post code system. It is still in development, so is not even a current system and it may or may not ever become the post code system of Ireland. Hope that clears up my thinking for you. ww2censor (talk) 17:55, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

But where does it say that to add information to the Postal code article the system must be in-use and not in development, or is that your own personal opinion? I think its a very narrow point of view you are taking. An Post has stated it doesn't want a postcode system... so even if the government did introduce one, chances are An Post may not even use it- so if we are waiting for An Post to set the standard we'll be waiting a long time. As the article alludes to, there are other uses for postcodes, such as for the ambulance service etc.

I think it's a shame that absolutely no reference can be made to the on-going private sector system that's in development. Would it not be possible to put in something along the the lines of:

There is an ongoing attempt to develop a postcode system from the private sector*. However, it remains to be seen whether it will gain widespread public use without government support.

And where the * is I would put a footnote-reference-link to the bottom of the page that would then link to the details of the system?--Trounce (talk) 13:13, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Your self appointed editing strategy is completely inconsistent. You are willing to enter reference to the Irish Independent report which in spite of your expertise referred to an completely unworkable system and a system which is not in use contrary to your stated dislike for such systems. I note that you still have not referred to the Irish Times article on the 14th March which actually refers to a system that is working and there is no reason why it will not get popular acceptance. Self appointed censors should be careful they do not become dictators. There is more than one interpration to a Post Code system and yours is out of date!!! In all my edits I have not stated anything but facts. If you continue deleting and do not add reference to a system which is almost in place then I will keep adding my edits as before until they stick. Its up to you... if you wish you can contact me directly via e-mail on this - my e-mail address is gary@gpsireland.ie

Please do not fall into the popular trap that PostCodes are only about delivering mail - drag yourself out of the 1950's if you can.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.70.211.45 (talk) 21:01, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Gary, that is very interesting indeed for you have just confirmed that you have a conflict of interest in this matter being employed by the very people whom you wish to promote. That is frowned on in Misplaced Pages. You should let other independent editors add the pertinent information when it becomes verifiable. And threatening to keep adding the same information will likely get to blocked or even banned or your IP range may even be blacklisted from editing Misplaced Pages at all. Now, please show me where I added the Irish Independent reference you refer to. I don't see such an edit on the postal code page and I did not add it to the Republic of Ireland postal addresses article IIRC. I am not self-appointed, nor inconsistent. I remove, and will continue to remove, unsourced non-verifiable information that has no relevance to the page. Show me the Irish Times article of 14th March and I will be happy to look at it for possible inclusion. When the Irish Minister for Communications announces the new postal code system for Ireland, if he ever does, then I will be very happy to add that information, but remember I don't have a conflict of interest, you do. You have not stated the facts, as you allege, you have added information about a potential product that may or may not become the postal code system of Ireland and please remember that a postal code system is one adopted by a country's postal authority and what you have is not that. When it becomes official let me know. ww2censor (talk) 21:34, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Year in Northern Ireland

Hi w2c, if you have a mo, I'd welcome your comments on my doodles at User talk:Sarah777#Years_in_Norrn_Iron (about a template). --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Great saves (from Marskell)

• WP:SIGNPOST and Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2008-02-11/Dispatches. Thanks for the beautiful work. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:09, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

George Piro is the FBI agent who interrogated Saddam Hussein

1. I was the person who created this very important page... Why am I not listed as the creator?

Because the original article, that I presume you are referring to was deleted, twice, as you can see from the page log.

2. I ask for help in clean up, and whoever did it, Thanks.

You can see every edit that was made by looking at the revision history of the article.

3. I used no copirighted pictures or any pictures at all...

Too bad.

4. I would appreciate a courteous response and fix to the above.

You got it, but what do you want fixed?

5. George Piro is the FBI agent who interrogated Saddam Hussein and appeareed on 60 minutes. That makes him notable. No need for speedy deletion.

The reason the page you created was deleted was because it was copyright information, not because he was not notable. You cannot just copy and paste copyright text from another website. Misplaced Pages does not allow it.

Thank you, Worldedixor (talk) 15:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I find those "quick" to delete offensive... You or whomever "quickly" deleted the article, could have just removed or reworded the text leaving a place holder for someone who care to add unique content... or just done clean up that I SPECIFICALLY asked for... Now, instead of my getting the credit for creating the article, someone else did... I have not posted on Misplaced Pages for a looooooooooooooooooong time and I let VERY important unique information go UNADDED to Weikpedia because I do not want to deal with the antics that some of you pull here... You comments "Too bad!" was unnecessarily antagonistic... Anyway, it is Misplaced Pages's loss... I am out of here... enjoy your ego trip!... Worldedixor (talk) 02:53, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

New article

... or maybe a stub? Started Mobile post office, partly by scouting around WP and a little new info. I've made an imperfect effort at improving my work on refs. Would welcome your input and anyway, fyi. Take care, HG | Talk 03:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Template:WikiProject Ireland tweaked

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I hope that my explanation at my explanation on the assessment talkpage clarifies the effect and the reasons I did it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Official mail

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postal history

The portal seemed to clash with the text (I'm on a different computer now, and it looks okay, but I imagine that a lot of computers could be the same). I just wouldn't have the white space there. Ultimately I don't really mind though! I was just enjoying the article, and changed it because it was out of accord with basic style norms. Do as you please! Wikidea 23:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

My comments about Gay Bryne were not VANDALISM!!!! I'm from Boston and remember watching him on People are Talking. Please get your facts straight before calling additions VANDALISM. If I am short of proof that's another issue. sgwalker@btopenworld.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.124.219 (talk) 07:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Some questions

Hello! At the moment I have a lot of spare time and I am translating the article de:Briefmarkenbogen. But there are some terms, of which I don't know the English word. I was looking at that page for some words, but did not found all of them. I am missing especially the words "Schalterbogen" and "Kehrdruck". Please can you tell me the English equivalents? Kind regards, — Tirkfl 12:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

While I don't know the terms myself, I assume Kehrdruck is tete-beche so look at de:Tete-beche. It seems like the German Tete-beche should be renamed Kehrdruck and the lead edited a little. I have no idea what Schalterbogen is so perhaps you can describe what it is. I could not understand the German article but I found this page which translates it as counter sheet. I don't know the term nor have ever used it in 25 years of collecting. Perhaps it is only used in other languages and not in English. The only thing I can find is a suggestion that Schalterbogen is the pane (sheet) of stamps as sold by the post office, rather than the sheet as printed. It seems that many stamp collectors use the term sheet for the sheets sold when these are really panes; a sheet of stamps is the full sheet of paper as printed on the printing press before being cut into panes for sale. ww2censor 14:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick reply! I was not sure, if the term tête-bêche is used in English too (I thought it's only used in French). I think counter sheet would fit well. Thank you for providing the link to the philatelic dictionary too! The German article describes the difference between the printed sheet and the counter sheet very well; the two terms are often mistaken. — Tirkfl 14:57, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem, just in for a few minutes. Yes indeed, tête-bêche is used by English speaking stamp collectors. Cheers. ww2censor 15:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Éamon de Valera sources

Yeah I will get around to it at some stage, i'll brush up on how to footnote and reference on wikipedia.... it's like looking at the matrix sometimes, a little off-putting at first I must admit. Thanks for your message the other day, i'd have be fumbling around a long time without some of those pointers Lazarus89 (talk) 01:02, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem, if you need some help just ask how to do it and I can point you to some examples. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 02:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Yup, image copyright is one area I avoid like the plague; life is too short :O). I found (what I think is) the image in question on the Belfast Council website and I think that it arrived there as part of a press release from the Northern Ireland Music Industry Commission and could well have been a promo image from the band themselves. I added a bit to your reply back on my talk page. FlowerpotmaN·(t) 01:23, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I dropped a note on TimothMurphy's talk page pointing him to the conversation so he should get it all. Sigh, now I have to go and try and explain to some kid why he can't make up articles and logos; now that I look at it, I think he is more a fan than anything worse and I think he might have just had the world drop on him...; well, it's worth a shot at least. FlowerpotmaN·(t) 04:27, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

WP Celts tags

Not to mention that he is not bothering to nest them when a "nest" is set up. I sent him a note about this, got rolled back & called a whiner! Best of luck. Johnbod (talk) 21:49, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I see that someone else has already removed them all, so we are not the only one to see it differently then Kintetsubuffalo. I also told him about the Misplaced Pages:Version 1.0 Editorial Team creating assessment statistics from the templates. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 22:17, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

A cunning plan

Open a requested move for Derry, see how many of the same people wanting to move RoI say move that to the official name.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 01:23, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

You are a better man than I if you choose that path. I don't think I would have the balls for that, but cunning indeed. ww2censor (talk) 01:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it's the right time (and I don't personally think either are good ideas), but it would definitely be interesting to compare people's contradictory arguments! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 01:32, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

LOL, (:> ww2censor (talk) 01:54, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

See what happens when you mention something!!! ww2censor (talk) 03:57, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I knew that keeping this talkpage on my watchlist was a good idea :) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

LOL, again! So here we go wasting lots of time. Sometimes I really feel like throwing away the watchlist so I can do some constructive editing. ww2censor (talk) 05:17, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Hard Break

Yes, it was. Thank you!--Shirt58 (talk) 11:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)