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The result of the debate was Tagged as copyvio. --malathion 05:41, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
Jung, tak young
Maybe this individual is significant, but this is a resume, not an article, and almost certainly posted by the subject (see Image:DSCN7012.JPG, currently on ifd, and note the username of its contributor and the email address given). —Cryptic (talk) 00:11, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Keep and rename to Tak-Young Jung. Numerous solo art exhibitions around the world. Pburka 01:37, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- The capitalization needs to be fixed, but I wouldn't support changing the name order unless that is the individual's preference or widespread usage. -- Visviva 13:09, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- The artist's own website indicates that he hyphenates his first name, and the Misplaced Pages convention is to place first names first. Note that the artist's e-mail address is tak_young_jung, so he seems to be a bit flexible about the ordering and the hyphenation. Pburka 14:12, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep as above. Kappa 05:40, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Keep and send to clean up. While he seems notable enough, the article as it stands is a CV. Capitalistroadster 06:34, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - It looks like a resume but this is not an employment agency; also, this individual does not seem to be a notable figure in history so far. UniReb 06:41, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Obviously needs work, but if those art exhibitions are legit then it's definitely worth keeping. Agentsoo 12:52, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. VfD is not cleanup. -- Visviva 13:09, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Copyvio from his personal website. --Scimitar 16:51, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. --malathion 05:43, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
HyTek Hosting, LLC
Delete nn webhost. Gets about 46 useful Googles with Misplaced Pages mirrors removed. Alexa rank for their site is about 960,000. -Splash 00:15, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete: Self Promotion. I'm putting HyTek's 2 employees up for deletion too, Joshua Stein and Andrew R. Smith. - Hahnchen 00:48, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete: Self Promotion. --pippo2001 01:01, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete as per above. Hamster Sandwich 01:18, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete if it is OK to keep this, then I think we need a micahclemens.com article :) MicahMN | Talk 03:24, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - <(','<) <( ',' )> (>',')> <( ',' )> <(','<) <( ',' )> (>',')> - UniReb 06:44, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete -- Longhair | Talk 08:20, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. --malathion 05:40, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
Andrew R. Smith
None notable vanity page. Self Promotion for a hosting company - Hahnchen 00:50, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete nnanity per Hahnchen. Also see VfDs for the company he works for and another employee. -Splash 00:57, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Deleteas per above. Hamster Sandwich 01:19, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - It needs something significantly notable to stay on Wiki... so... I have to say... no cigar/dinero/etc.! UniReb 06:51, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete now, though I wish him all success in life to qualify for a space here. --Bhadani 16:43, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete NN/Vanity. --Ragib 23:30, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete -- vanity - Longhair | Talk 08:21, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was Delete --Allen3 19:21, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
Joshua Stein
None notable vanity page. Self Promotion for a hosting company. - Hahnchen 00:53, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete nnnanity per Hahnchen. -Splash 00:55, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete: Self Promotion. --pippo2001 01:02, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete (unless... it reaches Fortune 500) but for now it needs to be deleted. Not much time left for the company to make it to the list... yipes!! UniReb 06:56, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete: Vanity, non-notable --Dysepsion 21:34, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was Delete again -- Radiant_>|< 11:42, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
PythonMOO
Rework of a previously deleted page (previous VfD here). Speedy delete as a recreation of previously deleted material was protested by the website's creator. Still appears to be a webpage of little to no notoriety. --Allen3 00:05, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete --pippo2001 01:03, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Big Sigh. OK, I'll play along with this. The claim is that this version is significantly different from the previous version. My recollection is that it's pretty much the same, but the original is gone from view of non-admin eyes so I can't say for sure. Could some admin please do a temporary restore of the original someplace so we can compare them? --RoySmith 01:12, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- The most recent version from before the original deletion has been restored, and may be viewed in the article's revision history. The primary difference is the About section in the new versions. --Allen3 09:10, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete MOOve along, nothing to see here. Hamster Sandwich 01:20, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - My head is spinning... <(o_o)> ... UniReb 06:58, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Speedied. The content is essentially the same; the only difference was the middle paragraph which was filled with obvious trivia (e.g. that you can use either a regular or a special telnet client to connect to it). Radiant_>|< 11:42, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete, with a vote of 3 to 7. ] 21:53, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Stormwind (band)
Delete, I think. They have one LP and one EP, released by a lable allmusic.com hasn't heard of. Allmusic.com has heard of a more modern artist by this name, but that artist only has 1 release (back in 2003) so fails WP:MUSIC anyway. My slight uncertainty stems from the fact that the information might have disappeared from the web because they were from the mid-80s. -Splash 00:20, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete I can't find anything on this band. But there is a lot of info on a Swedish Stormwind, formed in 1997. Although just the mention of Udo Dirkschneider almost made me vote to keep. Udo is way cool. Hamster Sandwich 01:25, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - ...unless if there can be any acceptable, creditable, notable information placed in the article about the subject. UniReb 07:02, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, notable. Kappa 12:12, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Borderline notability -- I'm more inclined to keep bands which have some history behind them. Pburka 14:40, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete unless article is revised to cite some references. Most of the Google hits for "storm wind 'heavy metal'" refer to the Swedish band as mentioned by Hamster Sandwich. Fernando Rizo T/C 20:06, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete at the moment. There are severe verifiability problems with this article. Would vote to keep if there was reliable sources provided for the information but I can't find any. Capitalistroadster 23:51, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete might be a footnote in some other articles but nn on its own. --Etacar11 04:02, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- Extreme normal keep, per Pburka. —RaD Man (talk) 09:52, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete not notable. Grue 19:40, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:MUSIC, which is there for a reason. --Icelight 22:11, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was Marked as copyvio. – Malathion 05:44, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
"marshall krause"
Well it's certainly interesting, and the case shows up on a google search, I just wonder if it's actually that notable. Plus also the text seems to slip into a fictional style of writing about half way through. Francs2000 | Talk 00:23, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Research I will bet a beer that this is a copyvio. I'll investigate. Nandesuka 00:47, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry I'm tired, I forgot to check that -- Francs2000 | Talk 00:47, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- No worries. It was a complete cut and paste job from sfweekly.com. I've replaced the text with the copyvio notice, listed it on the relevant page, and think that this should be speedy delete. Good catch. Nandesuka 01:20, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I can't buy you a beer though. Not unless you live within a certain radius of Buckinghamshire... -- Francs2000 | Talk 01:30, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- No worries. It was a complete cut and paste job from sfweekly.com. I've replaced the text with the copyvio notice, listed it on the relevant page, and think that this should be speedy delete. Good catch. Nandesuka 01:20, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry I'm tired, I forgot to check that -- Francs2000 | Talk 00:47, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete as copyvio. Hamster Sandwich 01:26, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete as agreed with Hamster Sandwich, as it may be a "copyvio." UniReb 07:05, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete -- Longhair | Talk 08:21, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete as copyvio. --Apyule 07:46, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was speedily deleted. FCYTravis 02:44, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
What middle schoolers in Hawaii do
Poorly written, bad title, 1st person, etc. etc. Joygerhardt 00:25, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete it. Why is this stuff not speediable? -Splash 00:30, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Actually, now I think about, it is just an attempt to contact people so is speediable under CSD A4, "an attempt to correspond". -Splash 00:35, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- I think it's rather sweet actually. Delete with impunity -- Francs2000 | Talk 00:38, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete --pippo2001 01:04, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete as per Francs2000. I thought it was sweet too. I wish my old school had ukelele players. I probably wouldn't have cut so many classes. Hamster Sandwich 02:16, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. --malathion 05:46, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
UMHC
Delete. Just a hiking club at a Uni. -Splash 00:26, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Contains useful, cross-referenced information. Other far less informative hiking club pages exsist!. --Coops
- Note: User's fifth edit. -R. fiend 13:33, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Edit first person reportage. I'd do it, but I'm far to out of shape...puff....wheeze... Hamster Sandwich 01:53, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete: "The club has a long history (which we'll get up here soon!)". It currently reads like an advert. Even if it was NPOV it would be of little interest to anyone outside the university. Why can't they put this on their website? Flowerparty 02:13, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete for now - unless... if there is any significantly-notable information added onto this article soon about the club and/or its history. UniReb 07:13, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Maybe mention in the University's article, but it's not even anything I would call worth a merge (or even a smerge). Every university or college has dozens or more clubs, some of them aren't even around for more than a few years. College clubs are rarely notable. -R. fiend 13:32, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete as nn. Tobycat 20:27, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete -- Longhair | Talk 08:20, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was Speedied by UninvitedCompany. Closing. Essjay · Talk 06:28, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
Kaustav
Delete, non-notable for sure. Speedy? I couldn't decide. -Splash 00:29, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - I would have speedied it personally. -- Francs2000 | Talk 00:30, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete --pippo2001 01:05, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Vanity. Hamster Sandwich 01:52, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - unless he discovers an unnamed, uncatergorized, or a never-seen-before object in the night sky and soon too... UniReb 07:17, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete NN/Vanity. --Ragib 23:31, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete -- Longhair | Talk 08:21, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- Speedied. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 22:44, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. --malathion 05:47, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
These Black Eyes
Non-notable fan fiction. Not even sure what all this is. Thought about speedy, decided to play it safe. If deleted, please check for articles linked to this one. RADICALBENDER★ 00:31, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Uhhhhh.......this is the biggest fanfiction to my knowledge on ff.net, if not in existence. It's got its own fan forum. Please explain how it is non-notable. - Sneal
- Note that Sneal is the author of the page. Note also that I didn't vote.
- Delete - Pretty much all fanfiction is none notable. They're not all that popular, nor are they of publishable quality. The article is also pretty badly written. - Hahnchen 01:05, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. This wouldn't be of interest to anyone outside of the fanfiction community (maybe only ff.net), or really devoted fans of Teen Titans. Junkyard prince 01:13, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Fanfic. -- BD2412 01:29, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete as per above.Hamster Sandwich 01:51, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, Fanfic. =P Xaa 03:13, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - ...as it seem to have blinded me for life ...figuratively-speaking! :) UniReb 07:20, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- If it's one of the most popular pieces of fanfiction on fanfiction.net, why not just merge it into fanfiction.net? - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 09:04, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Keep (Please not that i am from Germany, so expect no perfect English.) it deserves its own entry here, as this story represents "Teen Titans Revolution".
It features many Aspects which are untouched in the Comics and the Show of Teen Titans. And as a constantly Reader of this Masterpiece, i can say that it stands with Show and Comics on the same Quality level or more surpasses it, in Dimension that are not possible in Comics or Show. extra mentioned should be the incredible lenght and the Fan Support for it, own Forum, Reviews Count and so on.
note: user's first edit. Junkyard prince 17:29, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Please keep this entry. This is the one most remarkable pieces of fanfiction on the net to date and has an avid fan following. People should have the chance to learn about it.
note: user's first edit. Junkyard prince 17:29, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, fan fiction is rarely notable and this fan fiction seems to be more notable than most, but still not conspiciously so. Lord Bob 19:00, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Is there any notable fanfic? tregoweth 19:51, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Well, a fanfic that caused fifteen people to kill themselves in glorious sacrifice to Harry/Draco slash might be notable. But at this stage, that is, thankfully, purely hypothetical. Lord Bob 20:33, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Then I guess I should get writing. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 03:59, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Fan fiction is not notable. Not even the one where Spock and Kirk did it. RasputinAXP 20:56, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete nn fan fiction. --Etacar11 04:06, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was speedy keep (bad faith nomination) -- Francs2000 | Talk 01:49, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Dimitris Avramopoulos
This article reads more like a resume or advertising, nowhere near up to Wiki standards, I feel it should be considered for deletion DuckKing 00:39, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- If you look in the page history there is a decent version of the article before a new user changed it to read like a CV. As this guy is a Greek politician with over 13,700 google hits to his name I have reverted the article to the earlier version and vote speedy keep -- Francs2000 | Talk 00:46, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Keep - DuckKing has vandalised the page himself and then nominated it for deletion. - Hahnchen 01:15, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Speedy keep. Bad faith nomination. Pburka 01:43, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. – Malathion 05:47, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
Sonic Uncut
Non-notable Sonic flash on Newgrounds -- Bobdoe (Talk) 00:40, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete What the heck is it? Game cruft? non encyclopedic at any rate. Hamster Sandwich 01:49, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, though my mind raced at "...things that you'd never seen Sonic and the gang do before." -Splash 04:25, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Lovely pun, that. Almafeta 13:10, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Please. I beg of you. Nandesuka 04:28, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. How about Sonic Deleted? Vote also applies to Sonic Uncut 1 and Sonic Uncut 2. Capitalistroadster 06:57, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - Let('s) "Sonic" out of here...! UniReb 07:25, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete--Zxcvbnm 00:20, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. --malathion 05:48, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
Sonic Uncut 1
Non-notable Sonic flash on Newgrounds -- Bobdoe (Talk) 00:40, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Jeebuz! I can't believe I read that! Hamster Sandwich 01:48, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete I think my brain just exploded Cyclone49 03:31, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. I feel stupider just for having read the first few lines. -Splash 04:26, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. I will never get those brain cells back again. Nandesuka 04:28, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - Let('s) "Sonic" out of here... AGAIN...! UniReb 07:27, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - Unless there's a "gibberish" language 'pedia it could be moved to Tonywalton 22:57, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete- Garbage.--Zxcvbnm 00:20, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was No consensus. --Ryan Delaney 11:21, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
B1249
I live nearby to this road. It is a none notable single carriage road, not really worth mentioning in an encyclopedia. Hahnchen 00:42, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Comment, If this is the equivalent of the state highway in the U.S. then it should not be deleted.Gateman1997 01:43, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- B-roads are countryside lanes. Pilatus 11:40, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete as per Hahnchen. I'm trusting that the phrase "single carriage lane" implies it is a secondary road. Hamster Sandwich 01:47, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Correct - The B designation of the road signals a minor road. Hahnchen 01:56, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification! 'preciate it! Hamster Sandwich 02:11, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- A roads would be the equivalent of state highways. B roads are minor, frequently little more than country lanes. And there are thousands of them - the vast majority of which wouldn't merit articles.
Unless this one is significantly notewarthy in some way, deleteGrutness...wha? 02:28, 6 August 2005 (UTC) (who once lived alongside the B4031)- Changing vote to weak keep. The more I think about it the more I realise it does little harm, is useful, and - hell, it looks like someone is writing up a lot of them. Certainly more encyclopedia worthy than a lot of the cruft here. Grutness...wha? 04:05, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
- Based on the last comment my vote is KeepGateman1997 17:50, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- Weak Keep and Clean Up - Please add in more details about the subject if possible. UniReb 07:34, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, roads are useful for navigation. Kappa 12:15, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Misplaced Pages is not an atlas of every road on the planet. -- Francs2000 | Talk 14:12, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- delete B roads in Britain are minor road, there would end up being thousands of these small stubs, which would present a rather poor image in an encyclopaedia. There might be some way of presenting the information in wikipedia, but it seems unlikely. --Tim Pope 17:07, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- I suggest a look at B5405 road, B876 road, and Walton Summit motorway. Uncle G 22:51:36, 2005-08-06 (UTC)
- I looked at those articles and they all seem like minor roads as well. I don't think theres anything here that is more than directions from one small town to another. I guess if those three articles came up for deletion I would have to vote against their inclusion. I might be wrong, and just need convincing. Thanks UG! Hamster Sandwich 04:17, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- those three are now listed. --Tim Pope 11:23, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- I suggest a look at B5405 road, B876 road, and Walton Summit motorway. Uncle G 22:51:36, 2005-08-06 (UTC)
- Delete as per Grutness and Tim Pope. Fernando Rizo T/C 20:09, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- delete, non-notable. Sabine's Sunbird 14:26, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- Keep roads designated at the national level. --SPUI (talk) 17:18, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, seriously, the vast majority of B-roads are lanes. This is ridiculous. Proto t c 10:27, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete this entry and all other entries by the B-road vandal B-roads are minor roads; in Britain national roads are designated A-roads. Pilatus 11:29, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete for the reasons at Misplaced Pages:Consensus/B roads in the United Kingdom The JPS 16:45, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
- COMMENT: please see - and join in at - Misplaced Pages:Consensus/B roads in the United Kingdom
- Delete, like the other B-roads. -R. fiend 14:58, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was speedily deleted as IMO graduating in the top 25 percent of your class merely means you're better than 75 percent of those in your class. There's nothing notable about it, or anything else he's done. FCYTravis 21:48, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Shinu Chacko
Non-notable job seeker. Google returns 15 hits. RADICALBENDER★ 00:59, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Vanity. good luck on the job hunt! Hamster Sandwich 01:42, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Can't this be speedy deleted? No claim to notability. Sdedeo 03:08, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete vanity, speedy if possible. Jaxl | talk 03:16, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - Not wiki enough... also, this individual hasn't done anything significantly notable... UniReb 07:36, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Earning a $40,000 scholarship and graduating first in class are assertions of some notability, so speedy would be inappropriate, but the notability is insufficient to keep the article. Pburka 14:44, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete: for now the page will have to go on account of guidelines, but wishing him best of luck. --Bhadani 17:11, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete.
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The result of the debate was Delete --Allen3 14:32, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
Alan Barnes (recreation of A. Barnes)
Delete. No more notable than your average college professor, fails WP:PROF. In fact, the Uni's website lists no course in Physics, so I wonder what's going on here. Clearly he's not employed there for his prowess in relativity and Google finds about 50 hits for "Alan Barnes" physicist. -Splash 01:08, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- NOTE:The two articles here are identical and for the time being I've redirected the abbreviated one to the full one.-Splash 01:44, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete unless someone comes up with a list of his published work. Hamster Sandwich 01:40, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Hi, maybe I found the wrong A. Barnes on the web? The one I have in mind has 13 entries in the exact solutions book. (See the citations for the exact solutions article.) Any information appreciated. Also, please compare List of contributors to general relativity with the bibliography of MTW or the exact solutions book to assure yourself that I plan to discuss only some of the LEADERS in this field over the past 80 odd years.---CH (talk) 01:47, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- I'm not too sure where you're pointing here. Exact solutions is a redirect to an evidently relevant article that doesn't mention Barnes, and List of contributors to general relativity was only created today (with this particular gent added by you). Why is he teaching at a new university (mind my POV there) that appears to offer no courses in the numerate sciences, let alone physics? -Splash 02:16, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, Not notable, I have tens of thousands of Google hits and over twenty novels to my credit and I damn well don't see my bio on Misplaced Pages yet. ;-) Xaa 01:56, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Bang goes your pseudonymity (and don't forget to put quotes around your name when Googling...) -Splash 04:19, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- LOL! Wasn't trying to hide to begin with, I *always* use 'Xaa' as an online pen-name. It's even in my e-mail addy.
;-) Xaa 04:26, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- LOL! Wasn't trying to hide to begin with, I *always* use 'Xaa' as an online pen-name. It's even in my e-mail addy.
- Bang goes your pseudonymity (and don't forget to put quotes around your name when Googling...) -Splash 04:19, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete nn professor cv cruft. --Etacar11 04:13, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- Hi, Splash and all, please bear with me. First, I emphasize again that I did have high standards for the persons I included in my list (others have added some other people I am trying to have moved to more appropriate lists). "The exact solutions book" is the monograph by Stephani et al. cited in Exact solutions in general relativity; this monograph is widely regarded as a standard reference in this field.
- If you have an account on the arXiv you can check that Alan Barnes of Acton University has quite a few papers there, so the Barnes I described certainly does publish research papers on gtr. I'd caution you against assuming that someone employed at a university which doesn't offer physics courses cannot have an active research career in physics, since this Alan Barnes is obviously a counterexample! Academic jobs are hard to come by (especially in Britain, or so I am told), so some talented persons may choose to accept a seemingly inappropriate teaching job in order to remain in the profession in which they have been highly trained. Also, on occasion, quite distinguished retired professors have been known appointments with small colleges, simply so that they can teach from time to time.
- Nonetheless, I now guess the A. Barnes I had in mind is an older person by the same name, and yes, I should have checked more carefully that I had the right A. Barnes. I have tried to contact by email Alan Barnes from Acton University to see if I can clarify this situation. I may may not have made a mistake, but if so, it was an honest mistake. (What does "cruft" mean?)
- I think the best fix would be to let me correct the page once I have information about the A. Barnes cited in the monograph (some of these papers are widely regarded as important), rather than simply deleting it.---CH (talk) 22:33, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. --malathion 05:48, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
List of shows that are widely considered to have jumped the shark
Delete. EXTREMELY POV, and nonencyclopedic. This is what I would call an indiscriminate collection of information, which is listed as What Misplaced Pages is not. The basis for each inclusion on this article is opinion, and the title is written in jargon. --Zpb52 01:07, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
Merge with Jumping the shark. Hamster Sandwich 01:38, 6 August 2005 (UTC)- DELETE Change my vote in light of all the new info here. Thanks! Hamster Sandwich 23:43, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Please note that this info was removed from Jumping the shark, largely for POV reasons. -R. fiend 13:41, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- How? By pasting the whole list in the article? I could see a redirect, but a merge? JRM · Talk 01:42, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- DELETE Change my vote in light of all the new info here. Thanks! Hamster Sandwich 23:43, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, too POV to be considered encyclopedic. For instance saying the Simpsons has jumped the shark disqualifies the article by itself.Gateman1997 01:39, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. As if Simpsons hasn't. Keep. -- A Link to the Past 04:57, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- This is the sort of POV battling that articles like this tend to engender. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 11:10, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- As if I'm gonna respond to such absurdity any other way. -- A Link to the Past 17:53, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- This is the sort of POV battling that articles like this tend to engender. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 11:10, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. As if Simpsons hasn't. Keep. -- A Link to the Past 04:57, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Sorry, but "widely considered" isn't going to cut it in this case. There are no references to be found in that entire list—except, of course, for http://www.jumptheshark.com. Well, Misplaced Pages is not jumptheshark.com. JRM · Talk 01:42, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. POV. There's already a list at jumptheshark.com. -Ichabod 02:16, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, article has been here for three months and has had many, many editors. John Barleycorn 04:47, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- I'd like to stress that a decision to delete an article isn't meant to hurt its editors. On the flip side, we will never decide to keep an article because deleting it would hurt its editors either. That nobody's suggested its deletion in three months doesn't imply it's a valid article; likewise, editing an article doesn't mean you would oppose its deletion. JRM · Talk 10:44, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. POV, and duplicates a section of Jumping the shark. There's been previous discussion of what to do with examples, and "minimize them beyond what's necessary to convey the idea]] seems to have been the consensus. Even the title contains weasel words! — mendel ☎ 05:19, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete and don't look back...!! :o UniReb 07:40, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. POV, unencyclopedic, irrelevant, duplicate information. Bhumiya Talk 08:28, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. POV trainwreck. Do we really need List of awesome TV shows, List of TV shows that suck, List of TV shows you're an idiot if you like, and so forth? - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 09:04, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, POV. Radiant_>|< 11:33, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. For a start, I'd never heard of "jumping the shark" until a few minutes ago and the "widely considered" bit breaks naming conventions. But the content of the list is POV all the way, and even if this were to be resolved by adding references to everything (which seems unlikely) it would still be unsuitable list material for an encyclopedia and little more than an abuse of Misplaced Pages as a free web host. Flowerparty 12:41, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. This was removed from the Jump the shark page a while ago for POV (well, and size) reasons, and I'm not really sure why it wasn't challenged as a separate article until now. It is obviously POV, and practically a copy/paste from the jump the shark website, which is exactly where these debates should be taking place, not in wikipedia. We have a link there in the main article, which should suffice. -R. fiend 13:41, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Original research, POV, and unsourced speculation. Kaibabsquirrel 15:37, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Inherently POV. Maybe an external link to jumptheshark.com can stay. Punkmorten 18:34, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. This is what the external link to jumptheshark.com is for. Fernando Rizo T/C 20:10, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Strong keep what's wrong with it? Grue 19:42, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- Obviously, nothing! All the arguments of the other people have been refuted. :-P JRM · Talk 20:10, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - Nothing but POV - Hardcore fans never think that their favorite series "jumps the shark" when their opponents would think that the series did it in the pilot episode. The list could potentially include every single series that have been cancelled - and it happens to all of them eventually Skysmith 09:45, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - POV -- Chris 20:33, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
- Weak delete. That said, there needs to be a way to list examples of shark jumping outside the main JTS Misplaced Pages page. It's great that the Cousin Oliver and Chuck Cunningham syndrome pages have been created to list some of these JTS examples, but there needs to be more articles similar to those, and then some sort of disambiguation page to list each of the JTS categories, as I suggested in the "merge" discussion on this article's talk page, which frankly I'm surprised no one has picked up on. Perhaps that would be an acceptable compromise. ]
- One final comment – I appreciate JRM's comment that vfds are not meant to be personal, and that usually they're made for good reasons. Besides, I've moved on to better things, so deleting this page may hurt my pride but only for a little while. Just remember the disambig page idea.
- Delete - too subjective to be encyclopedic. One person's shark-jumper is another person's favorite show. "Widely considered" can't be quantified. Consider keeping if retitled to "Shows that have been cancelled or will likely be cancelled at some future date". The Hokkaido Crow 01:18, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - nothing but POV... --Raistlin 12:54, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
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