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Believe it or not, I appreciated your BLP concerns on Saeb Erekat - and I think it helped us reach a far less inflammatory version and far more encyclopedic than it would have been without your guidance.

Currently, there is a similar problem, but from the other direction, on Avigdor Liberman. I'd respectfully request your input on the issue.

Here is the start of the related talk: .

Cheers, Jaakobou 11:57, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

This page still needs your attention. Jaakobou 14:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC) correcting typo 23:22, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Mediation

Ryan, Koala06 hasn't edited since Feb 15. Since the other 2 fellows have agreed to the mediation, maybe he should be dropped? I don't know all the mediation comm rules, medcab is a much more freewheeling place. MBisanz 03:18, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

"Ping" MBisanz 05:36, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

April Fools follow-up

Hi Ryan. Just letting you know about this, as it is a way up the thread and you might miss it otherwise. Also, I note that you said things are over now. Well, it is still April 1 where I am, even if people do remember or know that you are supposed to stop by mid-day (don't know how widespread that tradition is), so I think some wider discussion was still needed. I think at the least it has shown that the "forget about it" approach, while it might have worked here, wouldn't address the underlying issues. Carcharoth (talk) 15:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Oops. Wrong Ryan! Thanks for pointing this out and being so calm about it. I've struck out my post at ANI and apolgised. Will remove it altogether if you want me to. Carcharoth (talk) 15:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah thanks for changing that - I get mistaken for the other Ryan quite a bit. I see you've gone to the dark side as well :-) Ryan Postlethwaite 22:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Alternative to infinite full-protection of Witton Albion F.C.

Hi there, you might be interested in this proposal. Tim Vickers (talk) 16:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

PS, sorry about deleting your penis. Tim Vickers (talk) 20:13, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah thanks for the notification - I'll certainly comment on it. My concern is that we shouldn't enable it for all pages because we're going to lose a lot of useful additions, but there certainly are some which could use it. Not too impressed about my penis pic, I was quite a fan of it ;-) Ryan Postlethwaite 22:31, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Although I'm sure you were quite attached to it, it was very small and not much use to anybody. Tim Vickers (talk) 22:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

RE:MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition

See this. But now that I go to the front page it seems that didn't fix it...can you help us fix this?¤~Persian Poet Gal 22:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Portal:England

Are you sure you don't want to switch to {{Random portal component}}? Also, if you're online, can you give me a hand to create all those redlinks? Thanks; Qst (talk) 19:42, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Totally forgot about the portals. I've just had to do both Portal:England and Portal:Tennis. Could you take a look at them and let me know what you think? I'm fairly sure I've finished them for this month. Ryan Postlethwaite 22:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Signpost updated for March 31st, 2008.

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Your signature

How in the would do you fit that in under 256 bytes???!! J.delanoy_adds 00:37, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Take a look at User:NikoSilver/Signature_shop - Niko worked wonders for me! I have to confess I have absolutely no skill with code. :-) Ryan Postlethwaite 00:39, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

What are you hoping to accomplish with the username policy?

I've been working for months to change the username policy, which is a very prominent way that experienced Wikipedians bite newbies by blocking them immediately over a policy they have presumably never seen. I'm trying to fix the parts that result in blocks being placed on newbies who have done nothing to harm Misplaced Pages, particularly the bit about "confusing usernames".

We're both administrators, but you're seen on many areas of Misplaced Pages and have a very authoritative voice, so it is a large hindrance that you oppose me at every turn. Whenever I encounter a long-standing Misplaced Pages dispute like this, I find it important and useful to find out why the other side is doing the things they are doing.

My goal is to get fewer good-faith newbies blocked. What's your goal? From your arguments on the page, it seems to be to make history pages look less confusing. But that doesn't seem to be at all on the same level. It certainly doesn't strike me as the kind of thing that can trump WP:AGF and WP:BITE.

I consider experienced Wikipedians to be intelligent people. If they are confused, they can usually unconfuse themselves with no problems. I don't see much harm to the encyclopedia coming from an established user being confused for a few moments on a history page. But good-faith newbies who get blocked, with very few exceptions, are just gone.

Huzzah! One less newbie to annoy and (even worse) confuse the regulars!

Okay, okay, that last part was a bit of a sarcastic straw man. But what is the real reason why you so strongly defend the status quo of newbie-blocking?

rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 21:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Although we generally disagree on the username policy, I certainly appreciate your thoughts at all times regarding the policy and I think it's good to have a few different opinions on it. If you could take a look at Misplaced Pages talk:Username policy#Misplaced Pages:Usernames for administrator attention/holding pen, I've created a new proposal that I we are both happy with. I certainly agree that the WP:BITE concerns are serious and we should try and discuss wherever possible before blocking these usernames - but if they don't agree to change their username, a block should still be given. Anyway, take a look at my proposal and let me know your thoughts. Ryan Postlethwaite 20:25, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Avigdor Lieberman

Hi there. I think you showed poor judgment in condemning the "BLP nightmare," apparently without checking any sources on the man. If you just check the first paragraph or even the headline of any profile on Lieberman — NickNH has provided some — you'll find that the incidents we have under "controversy" are all quite notorious. Reliable sources in fact present this stuff as relevant to Lieberman's overall biography, showing that it is not WP:UNDUE weight at all. I'm 100% sure that this seemingly uninformed comment is going to encourage Jaakobou to go on another reverting spree. <eleland/talkedits> 12:43, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

User:party

Hi, err, party (talk · contribs) promised me "something special", proof, if I get 500 edits, but he was accused of being a sockpuppet, so he could not give me the "something special", can you give my something special on behalf of him. Thanks. – i123Pie _bio 22:31, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Motions

Overall the move looks good, but check the bottom of the new page, I think an actual RfAr got swept in with the rest of it? That should probably get moved back. --Elonka 23:49, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Oops, yeah it did - I'll sort that. Thanks Elonka. Ryan Postlethwaite 23:51, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Small request

Could you perchance just let my case kind of quietly slip through the cracks? Show us how great you Brits can be.  :)Ferrylodge (talk) 00:10, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

hehe, unfortunately I'm not an arb so I can't do that - vote for me in December and I'll see what I can do ;-) Ryan Postlethwaite 00:17, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

It's a deal.Ferrylodge (talk) 00:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Final warning

Thank you, but I do not plan to do any harm to the encyclopedia. In fact, the first edit was me loosing my cool. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 01:02, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Reply

I have been focusing on mainspace. I have been already been told that. I plan to have at least 2500+ quality mainspace edits out of 10,000+ edits before trying the RFA. Thanks anyway!--RyRy5 01:20, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

MFD

Want to MFD this useless junk again? Misplaced Pages:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits? I'll full support deletion. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:56, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Protection of User talk:Jéské Couriano

Dude. He doesn't want it. . I already offered. Pedro :  Chat  23:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I know, I saw, but it was getting stupid and it can easily be stopped. Ryan Postlethwaite 23:14, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

It's intense. I guess if Jeske is happy to take the flak then up to him. All power to his right arm. Got to love the admin bit at times.... :) Pedro :  Chat  23:16, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

While protection *can* stop it, they'll just go after other users. Protection in this case is worse than blocking. -Jéské 00:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Mediation

Dear Ryan, I saw you are willing to take the mediation case for IZAK and I. I am very glad for this. Should I go about filing it with the MedCom or with you directly? Thank you very very much for your interest and desire to get involved. Bstone (talk) 02:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Could you file a case at WP:RFM and as soon as everyone accepts, we'll get it speedily accepted. Ryan Postlethwaite 11:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Tagging

Seriously Calton, you've had numerous admins telling you to stop tagging every person you warn with {{temporary userpage}}. I'm now formally telling you to stop tagging user talk pages as such.

Wrong. I've had a couple of people -- apparently not understanding actual policy and actual practice -- complaining. Excess pages get deleted all the time, and if you have a problem with that, perhaps you ought to take it up with the admins who are doing the actual deleting. Actual evidence of actual policy and practice, please, instead of vague handwaving, vague worries, and vague threats, please. --Calton | Talk 14:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)