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| Is it realy necessary to list major events of the Iraq war here? They don't strike me as in line with the rest of the listed events. - ] 17:38, 27 Dec 2003 (UTC) | Is it realy necessary to list major events of the Iraq war here? They don't strike me as in line with the rest of the listed events. - ] 17:38, 27 Dec 2003 (UTC) | ||
| == Possible edit war over Howard Dean's Confederate flag comment == | |||
| Here's the entry in the timeline in question: | |||
| * ] - In an interview with the ''] Register'', Howard Dean is quoted as saying "I still want to be the candidate for guys with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks. We can't beat George Bush unless we appeal to a broad cross-section of Democrats." This quote stirs strong controversy among Democratic contenders. | |||
| Here's the play-by-play: | |||
| * ]: Revert, we don't have time or space to list all stupid quotes from Dean, Bush, Kerry, ect. Listed one inparticular would be NPOV. Revert | |||
| * ]: We _do_ have the space, and if you think the time is important, _you_ take it. | |||
| * ]: How many other quotes are up there? None, therefore posting one in particular is irrevant and biased against Dean | |||
| * ]: Adding Dean Confederate flag quote back in....this has proven to be a noteworthy quote in the campaign. Other quotes of equal gravitas to the overall contest should also be added. | |||
| * ]: Good, add all the other candidates quotes that are noteworthy, until then it is being reverted. | |||
| * ]: It's accurate. It's apposite. It stays. | |||
| I'm hoping this is the end of the debate....it seems to have died down. However, I'm not planning on monitoring this 24x7, so I'm documenting this here for future reference. I feel pretty strongly that this is an important entry in the timeline -- ] 09:28, 4 Jan 2004 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 09:28, 4 January 2004
Covering future events
Why don't we stop talking about the future? Future release album, future election, future etc... -- Taku 08:13 Jan 5, 2003 (UTC)
- This is actually the present. The U.S. "election season" for presidential elections is beginning in earnest now, with several announcements about who is (and isn't) running. Election day is the end of a long public process that has already begun. - RobLa 08:33 Jan 5, 2003 (UTC)
-Hehe, getting ready are we. :)--Sv
"Self-centered" pages
There is no room for a waste of time with self-centered crap like this in an encyclopedia. Things like this are what make Misplaced Pages an unreliable joke by idiots with nothing more to do than create something of no real value.....DW
- Yay, me for President! Hmmm...have to add my announcement to the timeline... :) -- RobLa
What ever happened to the fine art of procrastination? :) --mav
- whaddya mean...working on Misplaced Pages is how I procrastinate. :) Seriously though, I'm hoping that by getting an early start and tracking this election early, we'll have a really complete record of what transpired.
DW: What do you mean by self-centered? And you really think its things like this that are troubling? Read the nonsense under Fifth World and Micronation. -- Zoe
gotta go with Zoe on this. rofl.-Sv
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Listing potential election issues
Although it's not possible to list potential issues in say the 2008 election, it is certainly possible to list potential issues cited by the candidates that motivate them to run in the next election. For instance Cynthia McKinney will certainly make an issue of the Iraq crisis, 2003 and oil imperialism. Gary Johnson will certainly make an issue of the War on Drugs. Ralph Nader will make an issue of the War on Terrorism and its civil rights impact. Issues mentioned by lots of potential candidates ought to be in an 'issues' section or separate article on "likely issues in the 2004 U.S. presidential election" just so people can bone up on them in one place.
This could get a *lot* of people reading Misplaced Pages, if the articles established a high reputation for quality and impartiality. It's worth doing for that reason if no other.
"Considering" vs. "Announced"
Our distinction between "considering" and "announced" is problematic. What exactly do we mean by "announced"? There are two formal actions taken with the FEC: statement of organization of an exploratory committee and statement of candidacy. Perhaps we should have "considering," "formed exporatory committee," and "declared"? M Carling (03 March 2003 14:18 UTC)
- No objection, though I'm not volunteering to fix this up :-) -- RobLa 07:53 Mar 4, 2003 (UTC)
- Yes the formal FEC actions are the ones that count, it's the only neutral/objective basis for any such classification. Go for it.
Great idea
The 2004 election timeline is a terrific idea. I am glad to see people working on it already. As a high school history teacher, I intend to use this as a resource. The more well-informed I can stay on the election, the better I can teach my students. keep up the good work! and i'll probably be helping here too! Kingturtle 02:30 Mar 10, 2003 (UTC)
- Glad you like it. However, it's six months later, and there are still gaping holes, like no biography of Michael Badnarik, former State House candidate from Texas, a stub for Gary Johnson, former Governor of New Mexico, none for Carol Miller, New Mexico Green, David Cobb, Green legal advisor to the party and former candidate for Texas attorney, nor even Cynthia McKinney, former Congresswoman from Georgia or Paul Glover, creator of Ithaca Hours. It took some time before even all Democrats were covered, which is kind of surprising.
- Perhaps your students can chip in and help by digging up biographies of the above, and filling them in?
Parenthetical notes
Is there a reason for parenthetical italicized notes (this note is unnecessary)? Wouldn't it be better to put them in