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An acknowledgment

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		A humble award for your tireless efforts to improve Hinduism related content on wikipedia, and protect it from vandals and POV warriors. It is always a pleasure to interact and collaborate with you. Abecedare (talk) 07:24, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I can't believe I haven't acknowledged your efforts till date! I hope you appreciate the iconography. Regards. Abecedare (talk) 07:24, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I am glad to get your spirits up! Among the various editors I interacted with when I first stared editing here in 2006, I see only DaGizza, Priyananth and you still around reverting vandalism/misguided edits and adding quality content. I hope your efforts will continue and, even more importantly, that you'll continue to derive pleasure from the process. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 04:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Undid your potentially libellous material insertion

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I appreciate your understanding. Wikidas (talk) 09:30, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Rasa-Lila

Can we work on this lead sentence?

"The Rasa lila or Rasa dance is a dance included in the traditional story of Krishna, as described in the religious texts of Hinduism."

I had "The Rasa-lila, also known as the “rasa dance” and as the “Dance of Love”, is a pastime of Krishna..."

I like using the news style, based on the way I read stuff on the Internet- I skim and I rarely read articles all the way through.

But really, based on this, I think that we should change the first sentence. We're looking for "the shortest possible relevant characterization of the subject." In my opinion, "pastime of Krishna" is this. That is what it is. If you don't know what a pastime is, you can't understand what it is. It's like "The Ford Thunderbird is a car manufactured in the United States by the Ford Motor Company.", "The Rasa-lila is a pastime of Krishna." It is not fundamentally a dance, it is fundamentally a pastime. And I'm not just speaking from and ISKCON perspective, am I? And all of this kowtowing to "Krishna is a mythological figure in stories". I'm not saying he isn't. What I'm saying is that we don't need to bend our backs saying again and again that it is a story only. I think it's fine to say that it's a pastime, because if you don't think pastimes are real then you don't have to believe it's real, but you do have to believe that it's a pastime. Do you agree with this? All I'm saying is that "pastime" is a more specific, descriptive word for what the rasa-lila is considered to be than "dance" or "story". And that's how WP is cool, you know, you say "Hmm, it's a pastime? Hmm, what's a pastime? Oh, that's what a pastime is". It's like the article for some sports car should say "the such-and-so car is a sports car" rather than "the such-and-so car is a vehicle." It's just more precise than "dance" or "story"- it doesn't make it opinionated, does it? But really, I don't know why I'm writing this, if I were you I don't think I'd change my opinion because somebody wrote this, so I am also going to go do something else.

Also, for the same reason that is better to be more defined, as defined as possible, "Bhagavat purana and gita-govinda" is better than "the religious texts of Hinduism" . (Did you notice that I didn't put "Srimad Bhagavatam"? Hahaha, I know how to behave in the material word of WP, hahaha.) Ys, David G Brault (talk) 21:50, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

The SB quote is actually found at the end of the chapter on Rasa-lila- it is in reference to it. Ys, David G Brault (talk) 02:42, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

I suppose you're right, and there was no reason for it to be there. So, according to Prabhupad you can put on a performance of pastimes like in Ramayana performances- but then you can't even think or dream about imitating pastimes. It is a little confusing to me and I interpreted it that performing it was bad when I read the chapter on Rasa-Lila in the Krishna book, but now I realize that Prabhupad is OK with putting on the Ramayana and stuff, but it seems that that would be thinking about imitating it. Do you know the significance of the term "imitating" to Prabhupad? Ys, David G Brault (talk) 18:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Vaishnavism wikiproject

• Hello GourangaUk. There is now a Vaishnava project located at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Hinduism/Vaishnavism, a project for edifying Vaishnava related articles. Also, there is now a talk page for Vaishnava related discussions located at, Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Hinduism/Vaishnavism. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 02:10, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Vaishnavism's relation to Vedic religion

Hello GourangaUK. I have added this discussion to the Vaishnavism Wikiproject talk page at, Vaishnavism's relation to Vedic religion. Please feel free to add any comments. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 16:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Paramhamsa

Thanks for the edt. I merge this article with the old article Paramhansa. Juthani1 (talk) 00:50, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Articles related to Hinduism

Shri Gouranga Guruji, I have posted two articles on wiki - one on Govardhan sila and another on Banalinga.They are not yet categorised under Hinduism.You may like to review them in view of your deep interest and editing skills on such subjects. Regards--Nvvchar (talk) 05:30, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Krishna article and avatar discussion

Hello GourangaUK. There is a discussion on Krishna's status as avatar at Krishna and Vishnu avatar discussion. Any comments you have would be appreciated. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 20:16, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

View AfD - Articles for deletion/Sacinandana Swami (2nd nomination))

GourangaUK, Please note that the discussion you were taking part in is being reopened with a veiw for deletion of article Sacinandana Swami as a possible result of the 2nd Nomination. Wikidās ॐ 20:15, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

New Articles

GourangaUK, after the recent Afd discussions on ISKCON leaders, I must admit to you that I was wrong concerning the articles Sacinandana Swami and Indradyumna Swami. If there are any related articles that you feel need to be created, please let me know and I will work with you. I have already began work on an ISKCON article, Gour Govinda Swami‎. Again I apologise for being wrong on the above two articles, please let me know if I can be of any help. I am not anti-ISKCON, so please let me know of any areas that I may help with or new articles that need to be made. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 06:00, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Vaisnava-Sahajiya and Vaishnavism

Please note the discussion on Vaisnava-Sahajiya and Vaishnavism, per Sri Ramananda Raya article. The discussion is located at, Vaisnava-Sahajiya and Vaishnavism. Any thoughts you have would be appreciated. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 21:38, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Gouranga

There has been a lot of debate on Talk:Krishna about the extent to which Gaudiya Vaishnava views should in the article. One of the editors followed my suggestion to create a new page on Krishna from the Gaudiya perspective (similar to Ganesha outside Hinduism, Buddha in Hinduism and Jesus in Islam) called Svayam bhagavan but the article still may not adhere to WP:NPOV. Since you are knowledgeable in this area, if you have the time I hope you can keep an eye on both the Krishna and SB articles. Thanks Gizza 02:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Invitation to be an editor on a new project

Invitation to create a Krishna centered Hinduism project

Proposed project - Krishna worshipers WikiProject Invitation - lets create unity in diversity! Proposal for discussion - May 2008 Please, say what you think about it: Just a few words... what may interest you and attract other editors across a wider spectrum of Krishna-centered or connected traditions in Hinduism? Go on over to our new project discussion page Talk:Krishna/Krishna worshipers. We need to talk it over! Look over the complete list of proposed traditions forming the scope of the project - this list is by far not complete, please add your favorites and discuss! From ancient to modern You can join and make a difference! This is an informal invitation to join a joint cross boundary venture. You and your friends are invited to discuss and comment on the proposal of new Krishna centered project. There are many traditions where Krishna is worshiped and His names revered. Lets join the forces and create more of the beautiful and well resourced articles on all related subjects and traditions. The traditions are not limited to one or two, there are many and all should be given equal attention by us. Drop me a few words or lets discuss it at the discussion page. Wikidās ॐ 22:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Since its just at the begging stage, please voice your opinion or put yourself on the list of editors here. Thanks, Wikidās ॐ 18:31, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

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