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Siamese revolution (1688)

Updated DYK query On 6 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Siamese revolution (1688), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 16:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Congrads. It's a really good article--Work permit (talk) 04:29, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

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Updated DYK query On 19 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Murayama Tōan, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Updated DYK query On 20 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Japan-Thailand relations, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 16:45, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Japanese Battleship Satsuma

Hi. I'm afraid I take exception to your two added specific references to the Battleship article on Satsuma. Here's why; the Sandler reference isn't itself cited, and there's nothing to suggest that he performed any original research into the genesis of the Satsuma design. With the second reference, Hugill would have you believe that the Satsuma and Aki were the same, when in reality there were substantial differences between them and they're listed in the same class for convenience, as with H.M.S. Queen Mary and the Lion class. Hugill cited Gibbons Encyclopedia of Battleships, which is hardly the most reliable of sources. The Sondhaus reference mentions the oft-quoted myth that Satsuma was waiting on imported guns, but doesn't source it.

As I've laid out before, on the Dreadnought article discussion it might have been, it is very difficult to generalise about the Satsuma because there is so little information about her. What is known is this; the Japanese naval constructor Wasaburô Kaneda prepared a plan for a battleship with 8 twelve-inch guns. Contrary to what Breyer suggests, this was never even taken before the Japanese Admiralty for approval. The 12 twelve-inch gun ships were approved under the 1904 Wartime Warship Construction Program, at which time the Tsukuba and Kurama classes were approved. The Japanese were already aware that they wouldn't be able to afford enough foreign-made (Armstrong) 12-inch guns with the number of ships being laid down in 1905, nor would they be able to manufacture enough of their new 45 caliber 41st (Year) Type 30-cm IV guns, which is what both Satsuma and Aki were eventually fitted with. There is no record of Japan making enquires to arm the two ships with Armstrong guns. There is no proof that the reason for Satsuma's prolonged construction period was due to a radical re-design. Antony Preston, who has been used a source for Satsuma being laid down all-big-gun on Misplaced Pages manages to contradict himself in his Battleships and his Battleships of World War I on the subject, and of course his earlier works are unreferenced.

Unmentioned anywhere other than Military Industries of Japan published after WWI is that with the commencement of the Russo-Japanese War Japan could no longer import ships and guns anyway due to neutrality laws, with the result that in 1904 she resolved to construct everything to do with her ships in Japan - Kongo being an exception to this rule nearly a decade later.

Of course, the above is just background. The main part is that I have seen no source give a reference, let alone a valid one that Satsuma was laid down as an all-big-gun ship. With a featured article one would have thought that such uncertainty wouldn't be good enough for inclusion. --Harlsbottom (talk | library) 19:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

If memory serves Jane's Battleships of the Twentieth Century" isn't referenced. That book is essentially a mass-market coffee table edition, and just because it has the Jane's name on the front I'd hardly call it reliable. I have the original 1906 and 1914 editions of Jane's Fighting Ships and no mention to any other armament than the as-built configuration is mentioned. As to my source, admittedly the only source I have is from Cassiers, an American engineering journal which features an announcement in January, 1905 of the IJN to lay down a battleship of 4 twelve-inch guns and 10 ten-inch guns. From November, 1905 there is an item in The New York Times referring to the construction in Japan of a battleship of 12 ten-inch guns. --Harlsbottom (talk | library) 20:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

ants images

One of my ants photographs.PHG (talk) 03:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I asked a question about some of your (rather nice) pictures of ants here commons:User_talk:PHGCOM#ants. Hope you can help. GameKeeper (talk) 22:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for the compliment! I confirm I am the creator and copyright holder of these photographs, and I will be delighted if they are used in the ants article. Cheers PHG (talk) 03:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Random question

I am asking you because you are a prior editor of the article Roman trade with India whose name was just changed to Roman trade with modern India. I am wondering if you agree with this name change, as it took me by surprise. Do you think the new name, and the reasoning behind the name change, is correct? Regards, –Mattisse (Talk) 17:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Siamese method

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 Done. Faire use rationale properly described I believe. PHG (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

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