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Theathenae,<br>I am writing to you now not out of ill will but to plead for your cooperation. Regarding the page ] (]), I believe that it is abundantly clear that Arvanitic is (at ''least'' for linguistic purposes) an ] ]. Otherwise UNESCO, Ethnologue and Encarta wouldn't say so. So, I am asking you to reconsider accepting the phrase ''Arvanitic is a ] of Tosk'', not ], ]. I believe that this phrasing is better than dialect (we could use dialect though) because it acknowledges the possibility of Arvanitic being a language in its own right. Your phrasing has the obvious defect that it implies that Arvanitic ''is'' a language in its own right. Something that ], Ethnologue and Encarta directly contradict. I know that many Arvanites dislike being called ], but that does not change the fact that at least ] Arvanitic is an Albanian dialect. So naturally, we will have to make it clear that many Arvanites dislike being labelled that way. You do realise that UNESCO, Encarta and Ethnologue probably represent the ]. Let’s use that NPOV. OK? If you continue not adhering to Misplaced Pages policy by continuing to edit the article you may have committed vandalism (removing accurate data is vandalism) and that would have to be dealt with under WP’s disciplinary procedures. I sincerely hope that things work out between us. ] 10:13, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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:I don't think they can, I'm afraid.--] 10:19, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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And why is that? Do you enjoy ignoring Misplaced Pages policy. That is the system. That is how thing work here. You are not cooperating. There is no scholarly evidence to support you arguments. ] 10:21, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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::See ].--] 10:23, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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I have seen it. It has me providing unquestionable scholarly evidence to support my arguments and you have provided no evidence. According to ] my views (and UNESCO's) are NPOV while yours are POV. ] 10:29, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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If you persist in removig these facts without justification, I shall report you to the Arbitration Committee. ] 10:33, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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:There is no such thing as unquestionable scholarly evidence. All scholarship is open to interpretation. Furthermore, I am not saying anything that contradicts your sources, I am simply saying it in a way that takes the Arvanites' sensitivities into consideration. And I will not allow them to be ignored.--] 10:35, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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It is not all Arvanites who feel that way, that is why some of them call themselves Shqiptar (Helsinki Report). It is far-right extremism who feels that way. Until you provide sources which indicate that Arvanitic in not an Albanian dialect, you cannot change the proven facts. ] 10:39, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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