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Hey there, Balloonman. Long time no see. Well, it has only been about a 1.5 months. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that I've been renamed to RyanCross (talk · contribs), so I'm not RyRy (talk · contribs) anymore. Yours truly, – RyanCross (talk) 05:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that on Keeper's page a few days ago. Seems like everybody is getting a name change lately... LordSunday above also changed his name recently...---Balloonman 05:54, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Well then, you might find this interesting. – RyanCross (talk) 06:14, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes I did.... and it explained A LOT! BTW, I've thought about changing my name too... I just can't think of anything I'd rather have... the one's that I can think of are A) too personal, and I don't want wikipedia to know who I am in real life or B) Promotional (Eg won't be allowed due to various policies.)---Balloonman 06:23, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

You have a userbox saying, "This user was a Professional Balloon Twister". I assume that's where you got "Balloonman" from? You also have "This User is a Black Belt in Kung Fu" and "This user is an Auditor userboxes. Maybe your username should be "BlackBeltMan" or "AuditorMan"? I like your current username though–most of the community knows you as "Balloonman" (the RfA man). Sorry for the long wait between replies. I'm a bit busy. – RyanCross (talk) 06:40, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I haven't done Kung Fu in a few years, so that wouldn't be a good name... audit... while I'm an auditor, it is a job, not a passion. I haven't done balloons in years either... but... who knows... I'll probably stay with Balloonman because there is nothing I like better.---Balloonman 14:05, 13 October 2008 (UTC) EDIT: As for my name... yeah, when you twist balloons people come to you and say, 'Balloonman' all the time, but my stage name was "PoppaBalloon" (or Pop-a-Balloon) thus my talkpage linkname---Balloonman 17:34, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

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You !voted twice on this RfA. Once in the neutral section and later in the Support Section. Since the Support !vote came after the neutral, I indented the Neutral. If I got it wrong, and you want to be neutral (not support) please fix it.---Balloonman 05:59, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that.

I had indented it (see here), but apparently someone changed it.

Thanks again : ) - jc37 08:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thanks :). Even if it didn't work, at least it's something we can rule out for the next time the perennial debate comes around. I'm not one for any kind of grudge, and I look forward to seeing you around-wiki in the future. Ironholds (talk) 14:18, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

You deserved it... while the RfA failed, and I think the concept failed, you were the first person to bring a meaningful attempt at reform to the project in a long time. For that, you deserve credit.---Balloonman 14:20, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

More Caspian

Now I'm a vandal... I dunno what his issue is. He doesn't seem to get the meaning of the word "stop". I can't see what possible benefit in templating me was, and reverting my perfectly acceptable edit. Ah well. Best wishes, -- how do you turn this on 22:40, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

yeah, if a crat hasn't removed it by the time I get home from work, I'll probably take him to ANI... I'll give a crat the chance first... don't want to appear to be forum shopping.---Balloonman 22:42, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

As for your personal attacks

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You really think you're being logical? As for fallacy that you're referring to me as such, I don't see any logic from your non-apology apology. Who made the atmosphere of the ongoing RFA unnecessarily hostile with the personal attack? You falsely blame me that I made that, but did I? You, Tan and others' uncivil badgering are oppressing me to answer the. inquisition continuously. I stand by my stance which is so simple and is no harm. Clearly, there is no requirement for me to make satisfiable answer for supporters nor to persuade them. As I have repeatedly said, I don't get any logic from "per nom, "absolutely", "good editor", "deserves to become admin" which comprise much of suppoters' rationales. I don't have any problem with their logically missing rationale. Their answers are just "emotional supports". Why don't you just leave me alone? Why are you guys so harassing me to follow your likelihood? You and your friends implied that I opposed candidates with logically flawed rationales so that my RFA support rate is so low. I do not participate in every RFA. I only do for whomever I've met in the past or I take interests or whose support rate is hovering around 70% to 85%. You grouped me together with Kurt Weber as demonizing me. I don't endorse you to relocate my opinion to the talk page. My reasoning does not convince you because you're not me nor opposer.--Caspian blue (talk) 23:05, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Knock it off, Caspian. What possible benefit is there in continuing this? You're simply carrying on arguments for no reason. -- how do you turn this on 23:07, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

You're the one to knock it off. Why are you so eager to remove my opinion from the page? --Caspian blue (talk) 23:19, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Your opinion has no place on the RFA (unless it's about the candidate). You said a bureaucrat could remove it; WJBscribe did, and you tell him he isn't neutral. I don't understand why you're doing this. -- how do you turn this on 23:23, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

It might've be much better if other 'crats did that if my analysis on the personal attack against opposer is so unpleasant and too honest. Besides, I did not know that you became a beuraucrat without any election campaign.--Caspian blue (talk) 23:30, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not a bureaucrat, but I don't need to be one to remove off topic comments off the main RFA page. It's not your page, and it's not your place to order people about as to what they can and cannot do. -- how do you turn this on 23:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Also you are not an admin. You're not permitted to remove anyone's comment from the page. You don't own my comment and could not take away my free will to speak. Besides, do not follow me any more.--Caspian blue (talk) 23:47, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Maybe a language barrier is in play here? I think I understood the gist of Caspian's rant, but I couldn't be sure of the specifics...Tan | 39 23:12, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

So typical way.--Caspian blue (talk) 23:19, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I have no desire to continue talking to you... you are obviously so full of hate that people can't approach you or try to discuss things without being called a vandal or oppressor. I tried to explain that my comment was not intended as a personal attack, and that if you took it as such I apologized. I also tried to point out that your characterization of Tan was incorrect, but you are correct... we are oppressors. Ending this discussion please don't post here.---Balloonman 23:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

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Your lecture

Your lecture does not earn some respect. One thing you made me upset most was you compared me with somebody whom I wonder why he are even permitted to edit Misplaced Pages. I know who you were referring to, and who is Kurt Webber. He is actually not indef.blocked, so please do say truth. He might've had zero support rate and I don't say like "power hunger, prima facie...blah blah.." The comparison is insulting and I consider your comments "personal attacks". Providing diffs does not mean opposers could safely express their opinion without being badgered by supporters. They still accuse people in disagreement do see negative aspects too much or exaggerate some flaws of candidates. I've seen that practice too many, especially by this person. Moreover, "he acts like an admin" does not have any good in my opinion. Can you say that "a student acts like a professor" has a good meaning? Nope. You said you defended me in the supporter's side. Well, lately I opposed him to become an admin, so I don't care his intention for quoting me stems from his own feeling. Perhaps, supporters should do provide "diffs" to understand opposers. Have a good day.--Caspian blue (talk) 13:10, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

You're still going on about this? The rest of us had forgotten and were busy getting on with our lives. What's your purpose in bringing this up? Drop it, for goodness sake. -- how do you turn this on 15:09, 14 October 2008 (UTC)