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::That's not my "soft language," that is the prosecutor's soft language. He is explaining why he dropped the charges. --] (]) 00:07, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::That's not my "soft language," that is the prosecutor's soft language. He is explaining why he dropped the charges. --] (]) 00:07, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:::*No, it's soft language because it equivocates on the factual basis of Simpson's innocence. If you want to include this in the article you're going to have to another way to phrase this, other than "he's innocent because the prosecutor couldn't find a way to try the case." ] (]) 01:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:::*No, it's soft language because it equivocates on the factual basis of Simpson's innocence. If you want to include this in the article you're going to have to another way to phrase this, other than "he's innocent because the prosecutor couldn't find a way to try the case." ] (]) 01:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::::There is no "factual basis of Simpson's innocence." The prosecutor didn't say "He is innocent." The prosecutor said" There's not enough evidence to take this to trial." There is a difference, and I have the ] to back up my claim.--] (]) 01:52, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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BLP concerns
This article has been the subject of some blanking and BLP-related vandalism from a Simpson partisan (who since has been blocked). First of all, inclusion of the allegation does not violate WP:UNDUEWEIGHT, since it is only 1 paragraph and the rest of the article discusses the subject's biography. This does not violate WP:BLP, since all facts are supported by rock-solid Reliable Sources. This respects Misplaced Pages:BLP1E#Basic human dignity by only reporting details that received significant news coverage in the media. This respects WP:Libel, since nothing in the article says that Simpson actually committed a crime. Per Misplaced Pages:BLP1E#Well-known public figures, "If an allegation or incident is notable, relevant, and well-documented by reliable published sources, it belongs in the article.") Also, there is balance in the article, since it includes public expressions of innocence by Simpson. If you want to remove the allegation, you will need to establish consensus on the talk page.--HoboJones (talk) 22:33, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Yea right. It clearly violates BLP provisions because it does not tell the full and complete story concerning Simpson's exoneration. This would be part and parcel for compliance with that protocol. Instead, you and other Republican operatives have tried to insert the text into this article to try and smear Simpson ahead of the election. The arrest has nothing to do with his political career and recieved very little press coverage. It would therefore be giving the incident undue weight to dedicate half the article's space to an allegation that was later debunked. Until a balanced statement can be written that is included within the larger context of a well written (and well sourced) biographical entry, this paragraph has absolutely no place in this article. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 22:46, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Here's some non-BLP violating and RS-backed language. It includes the arrest, Simpsons's denial of the charges, his leave of absense from his committee chairmanship, the dropped charges, and his resumption of re-election bid and chairmanship.:
On April 27, 2008, Simpson was arrested and charged in King County District Court with fourth-degree assault and interfering with a domestic violence report after an altercation with his ex-wife. Simpson immediately declared the charges "unwarranted" and predicted his exoneration. On May 2, 2008, Simpson took a temporary leave from his chairmanship of the House Local Government Committee until his "legal issues are resolved." On May 28, 2008, the prosecutor in the case dropped the charges against Simpson, saying that he "no longer believes there is sufficient evidence to proceed with the charges." Simpson said that he would resume both his re-election bid and his committee chairmanship.
No. You use soft language when you talk about dropping charges, saying not that Simpson wasn't guilty but including a quote from the prosecutor saying there wasn't enough evidence. Again, this presumes guilt but cites a lack of evidence for trying the case. You also spend a lot of time talking about his temporary resignation of committee posts to try and give weight to the charges, for which there was none. You can try rewriting it again, but I strongly oppose this draft. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 23:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
No, it's soft language because it equivocates on the factual basis of Simpson's innocence. If you want to include this in the article you're going to have to another way to phrase this, other than "he's innocent because the prosecutor couldn't find a way to try the case." Cumulus Clouds (talk) 01:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
There is no "factual basis of Simpson's innocence." The prosecutor didn't say "He is innocent." The prosecutor said" There's not enough evidence to take this to trial." There is a difference, and I have the WP:RS to back up my claim.--HoboJones (talk) 01:52, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
