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*]. --My ] account is finished (that's it), and I'd like to have ] deleted. It will be recreated as a redirect (without the excess edit history) to my new talk page, ]. There are no pending reasons to preserve the old talk page; everything on it is settled, a bunch of old baggage. Thanks again folks, -] 06:31, 12 October 2005 (UTC) *]. --My ] account is finished (that's it), and I'd like to have ] deleted. It will be recreated as a redirect (without the excess edit history) to my new talk page, ]. There are no pending reasons to preserve the old talk page; everything on it is settled, a bunch of old baggage. Thanks again folks, -] 06:31, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
*] -- Idiosyncratic POV reproduction of the contents in the The contents were a problem in the category namespace, and they are a problem too in the main namespace... I originally listed the article at ], but all the feedback suggested that the article be placed on speedy deletions instead. ] | ] 07:12, 12 October 2005 (UTC) *] -- Idiosyncratic POV reproduction of the contents in the The contents were a problem in the category namespace, and they are a problem too in the main namespace... I originally listed the article at ], but all the feedback suggested that the article be placed on speedy deletions instead. ] | ] 07:12, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
::Evidently 172 does not like the term totalitarian dictator. he also does not like following the rules. The vote to delete Category:Totalitarian dictators had been closed without a consensus, so that category should still be around. 172 removed the notice of closing and then proceeded to solicit votes to support his position, after supporters of the category thought the voting was over. Consult with the admins on that deletion for the details of his behavior. This is an article, far more notable than many articles, and not only is it different than a category, there is different text than that which was voted down in the category. I had prepared this text for the category page, after there was no consensus for deletion of the page, and the voting had been closed, in order to improve the category so that it would answer 172s objections and do better should there be another attempt to delete the category. 172 of course, will deny that it addresses his objections, but that doesn't matter, many others will see that it takes the stings out of his assertions that this cannot be implimented in a NPOV manner. Instead of pressing for arbcom review of 172s behavior, and a restoration of the catagory due to the voting irregularies he fostered. I was just going to wait a month and create it again. In the mean time this is as legitimate as any article. Unfortunately, a lot of work by several editors was destroyed during the vote for catagory deletion process by 172s behavior, since he was busy deleting the category from all articles while the vote was still going on and had to be admonished. As far as I know there is no easy central place to recover those totalilitarian dictator candidates. --] 09:58, 12 October 2005 (UTC) ::Evidently 172 does not like the term totalitarian dictator. he also does not like following the rules. The vote to delete Category:Totalitarian dictators had been closed without a consensus, so that category should still be around. 172 removed the notice of closing and then proceeded to solicit votes to support his position, after supporters of the category thought the voting was over. Consult with the admins on that deletion for the details of his behavior. This is an article, far more notable than many articles, and not only is it different than a category, there is different text than that which was voted down in the category. I had prepared this text for the category page, after there was no consensus for deletion of the page, and the voting had been closed, in order to improve the category so that it would answer 172s objections and do better should there be another attempt to delete the category. 172 of course, will deny that it addresses his objections, but that doesn't matter, many others will see that it takes the stings out of his assertions that this cannot be implimented in a NPOV manner. Instead of pressing for arbcom review of 172s behavior, and a restoration of the catagory due to the voting irregularies he fostered. I was just going to wait a month and create it again. In the mean time this is as legitimate as any article. Unfortunately, a lot of work by several editors was destroyed during the vote for catagory deletion process by 172s behavior, since he was busy deleting the category from all articles while the vote was still going on and had to be admonished. As far as I know there is no easy central place to recover those totalilitarian dictator candidates. In summary:
# the original category should still be around and was only defeated due to irregularities by 172 after the voting had been closed without a consensus
# so that event is irrelevant to making this a candidate for speedy deletion, this article is notable in its own right
# this article is different than a category
# the text in this article is different than that in the category, at least at the time of the voting and irregularities, so its merits are different, and its relation to the previous irregular events has been broken
# the changes in the text are intended to address 172s objections, not his satisfaction, but perhaps to the satisfaction of others
# 172 should be banned from editing the article, since he cannot edit it good faith, he has already concluded that it cannot be made workable, so any edits are likely to be as disruptive as his other behavior has been

::--] 09:58, 12 October 2005 (UTC)


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Evidently 172 does not like the term totalitarian dictator. he also does not like following the rules. The vote to delete Category:Totalitarian dictators had been closed without a consensus, so that category should still be around. 172 removed the notice of closing and then proceeded to solicit votes to support his position, after supporters of the category thought the voting was over. Consult with the admins on that deletion for the details of his behavior. This is an article, far more notable than many articles, and not only is it different than a category, there is different text than that which was voted down in the category. I had prepared this text for the category page, after there was no consensus for deletion of the page, and the voting had been closed, in order to improve the category so that it would answer 172s objections and do better should there be another attempt to delete the category. 172 of course, will deny that it addresses his objections, but that doesn't matter, many others will see that it takes the stings out of his assertions that this cannot be implimented in a NPOV manner. Instead of pressing for arbcom review of 172s behavior, and a restoration of the catagory due to the voting irregularies he fostered. I was just going to wait a month and create it again. In the mean time this is as legitimate as any article. Unfortunately, a lot of work by several editors was destroyed during the vote for catagory deletion process by 172s behavior, since he was busy deleting the category from all articles while the vote was still going on and had to be admonished. As far as I know there is no easy central place to recover those totalilitarian dictator candidates. In summary:
  1. the original category should still be around and was only defeated due to irregularities by 172 after the voting had been closed without a consensus
  2. so that event is irrelevant to making this a candidate for speedy deletion, this article is notable in its own right
  3. this article is different than a category
  4. the text in this article is different than that in the category, at least at the time of the voting and irregularities, so its merits are different, and its relation to the previous irregular events has been broken
  5. the changes in the text are intended to address 172s objections, not his satisfaction, but perhaps to the satisfaction of others
  6. 172 should be banned from editing the article, since he cannot edit it good faith, he has already concluded that it cannot be made workable, so any edits are likely to be as disruptive as his other behavior has been
--Silverback 09:58, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

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