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::::Exactly. The guy was blowing of steam ''on his own talk page'' after two unfair blocks, so now a third has been placed to make sure he becomes more calm and productive. O.o ] <sup>]</sup> 20:57, 13 December 2008 (UTC) | ::::Exactly. The guy was blowing of steam ''on his own talk page'' after two unfair blocks, so now a third has been placed to make sure he becomes more calm and productive. O.o ] <sup>]</sup> 20:57, 13 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Had enough of the bloody place - gone. Giano (talk) 16:32, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
:Ya don't seem the type, to pack'er in. Hope ya change your mind. GoodDay (talk) 16:33, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
- Chill, please? You do know that Theresa is an ex-arb, right? a just in case. Cheers, Jack Merridew 16:45, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
- Do you want me to protect this page to stop more comments? Caulde 16:51, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Blocked for incivility
While finding yourself as collateral damage in an autoblock is not a nice situation, you are still expected to assume good faith. Instead you attacked the administrator who had placed the block, absent any evidence that she could reasonably have forseen collateral damage. Further personal attacks followed. While Teresa Knott should have obtained the consent of this Committee before blocking you, I find that her failure to do so was accidental and so her situation differs from that of SlimVirgin.
After Teresa's block was undone, you went after her in further violation of civility restrictions, and further attacked Elonka including without justification assuming that her block was "trolled". I note that you are quick to detect personal attacks on yourself; someone who knows what a personal attack on themselves is can be expected to know when they are making a personal attack on another user.
In accordance with the motion concerning enforcement, the block was debated on the Arbitrator's mailing list and endorsed by a majority of the committee. The initial proposal of one week was moderated to 72 hours. Supporting arbitrators were Charles Matthews, Deskana, Fayssal F., FT2, Jpgordon, Kirill Lokshin, and myself. No arbitrator opposed. The following arbitrators did not express an opinion, or were away at the time of the debate: FloNight, Jdforrester, Morven, Newyorkbrad, Stephen Bain, YellowMonkey.
To verify the agreement of the committee please see this email from Arbcom-l and the preceding thread (former arbitrators with access to the list may wish to give independent confirmation of the committee's consent). I suggest that any appeal be directed to the committee. Sam Blacketer (talk) 18:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
- Sam, it looks like you have misrepresenting things. You say that Giano "went after her". Those diffs point to comments on his own talk page. Going after somebody implies following them to another venue, such as their own talk page, and posting hostile comments. A more correct interpretation would be, "after she went after you, you got pissed off and posted some annoyed comments on your own talk page." As an ex-arb, I think Theresa Knott has pretty thick skin by now, and I think Elonka does as well. These are not helpless little newbies who will wither at the first sign of a discouraging word. Why are you folks trying to drive Giano away or provoke him further? Jehochman 20:26, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
- Incivility is incivility, regardless of where it is posted. I honestly cannot believe what I am hearing. --Deskana (talk) 20:49, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
- There's a world of difference between being rude on your own talk page and crapping on someone else's. Giano was sorely provoked. Jtrainor (talk) 20:52, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
- Incivility is incivility, regardless of where it is posted. I honestly cannot believe what I am hearing. --Deskana (talk) 20:49, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
- Exactly. The guy was blowing of steam on his own talk page after two unfair blocks, so now a third has been placed to make sure he becomes more calm and productive. O.o Jehochman 20:57, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
What happened here
- "That's a vicious dog over there."
- "Looks like just another dog, only kind of big, to me."
- The "Neapolitan Mastiff" in question is writing articles and trying to get them right.
- "It is vicious. Watch. I'll throw a rock."
- The mastiff looks over.
- "No, really! See? It's looking at me funny. I'll throw another rock"
- "I dunno, maybe."
- The mastiff growls and snaps at the rock thrower.
- "See?"
- "I don't know about before, but it's clearly being incivil now! I'd better throw something at it to calm it down."
- The mastiff continues to snap at the rock hurlers.
- "What the heck is that? I'll go get my gun and talk on my walkie talkie about this vicious dog."
- "It isn't responding well to being clubbed! Get on the walkie talkie and call in more artillery!"
- "We need to tase this creature, quick!"
- "Yes, yes, yes, officers! I always said it was a vicious dog."
- "What are you people doing? You're fools! You created this situation yourselves and want to punish someone for simply standing up against an attack!"
- "We are doing a great job protecting the public from such vicious and unscrupulous users."