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| The first edit by Warlockgruffles (18:23, 19 Apr 2005) adds a particularly non-neutral POV. --] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC) | The first edit by Warlockgruffles (18:23, 19 Apr 2005) adds a particularly non-neutral POV. --] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC) | ||
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| According to the dictionary.com and marrian websters dictionary black is :Of or belonging to a ethnic group descended from African peoples having dark skin; eg African-American | |||
| If I am not mistaken one of the popes was from mauretania which is more west african than north african even today. I find nothing that supports your claims of black meaning sub-saharan african cause there are blacks outside of africa (eg micronesia, melanesia, some polynesians, half of yemenis have one black grandparent or parent, etc) Also what about people from Sudan(which means black in Arabic, Niger(which means black in many latin languages), Chad and most of Southern Egypt today all have majorily black populations and none of these places are sub-saharan. Also many places like Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, and Morocco present black populations today and in the past so how can we say with certainty that they were white, black, mid-eastern etc. I don't even have a problem with so much as you provide no evidence that even suggest or asserts that these popes were not black in the modern or past sense. You simply say they aren't. I'm going to remove your claim until you provide a link that at least claims they were not black and explains why they were not black. I hope you understand that here at wikipedia we simply can't claim or dis-claim people were or were not of a certain race without no links or sources | |||
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- As pagan culture faded, so did the chance of another African pope.
Huh? Pagan culture was somehow an antidote against racism, or Christianity was/is somehow inherintly racist, or both? -- Khym Chanur 04:09, Nov 1, 2003 (UTC)
If I am not mistaken, the popes listed were all North African and therefore not what is normally known as "black", which usually refers to the race of sub-Saharan Africans. Maximus Rex 05:55, 1 Nov 2003 (UTC)
The first edit by Warlockgruffles (18:23, 19 Apr 2005) adds a particularly non-neutral POV. --213.84.212.97 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
According to the dictionary.com and marrian websters dictionary black is :Of or belonging to a ethnic group descended from African peoples having dark skin; eg African-American If I am not mistaken one of the popes was from mauretania which is more west african than north african even today. I find nothing that supports your claims of black meaning sub-saharan african cause there are blacks outside of africa (eg micronesia, melanesia, some polynesians, half of yemenis have one black grandparent or parent, etc) Also what about people from Sudan(which means black in Arabic, Niger(which means black in many latin languages), Chad and most of Southern Egypt today all have majorily black populations and none of these places are sub-saharan. Also many places like Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, and Morocco present black populations today and in the past so how can we say with certainty that they were white, black, mid-eastern etc. I don't even have a problem with so much as you provide no evidence that even suggest or asserts that these popes were not black in the modern or past sense. You simply say they aren't. I'm going to remove your claim until you provide a link that at least claims they were not black and explains why they were not black. I hope you understand that here at wikipedia we simply can't claim or dis-claim people were or were not of a certain race without no links or sources